Sleeper Awakening on Green

[Convict]

Originally Posted by Prismaticshop [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

On blue99 sleeper was awoken because :

1) Leader of guild A farming Sleepers did not want leader of guild B that started killing warders to get warder loot

2) Leader of guild B ended up with warder loot anyways

what's the reason on Green?

mostly same reason, but less to do with the leader of either guild.

Guild A had uncontested warders for months, Guild B finally has enough keys to pressure guild A into having to go into sleepers and do warders early on quakes, causing them to miss prime targets outside sleepers which tbh have better loot if you dont care about being a fuckin gnome bard, or aren't a monk. Primals will always drop, albeit more rare, but will always drop. The only things really of note being removed are SoDs and Lungi robe, neither of which are game-breaking for any of the classes that can use them.

KT has been scooped up on quakes by Guild B for a very long time, who arguably is the best first target on quakes in the game. KT was like the ultimate loot pinata pull to zone line kill in 10 minutes that move on. With new rules its much more of a pita but still will probably be picked off early on quakes but maybe not first target for Guild B anymore, who knows what they will do. With warders gone Guild A and finally focus more on the better loot drops outside sleepers, but Guild A has been suffering from burnout for a while having to team up with Guild C to really kill anything of note, including Vulak.

Now that Guild B has enough keys to go in and start taking warders and already has been taking some of the golems in sleepers, Guild A just gonna throw away all the toys so guild B cant play with them and play it off as some sort of event they are doing for the "good of the server". This will happen literally on any server p99 releases in the future it always plays out the same. Usually Guild A on any server gonna have too many big egos in the room to stand by and watch other guilds get "exclusive loot" such as warders loot. If they can stop anybody else from getting something they always will. If there was a way to make Vulak stop spawning they would do that too once they got what they wanted, or if they started to lose Vulak to another guild. Its just an ego thing.

[jadier]

Originally Posted by Convict [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Guild A just gonna throw away all the toys so guild B cant play with them and play it off as some sort of event they are doing for the "good of the server"…. Its just an ego thing.

This is the core of it. It’s grown adults making a toddler decision to not share. It’s the impulse to flip the board over and wreck the game the moment even one move goes against you.

No matter how it’s gussied up, it’s embarrassing. But it isn’t unique to ST since it happens on every server. It’s just adults being childish because we’re playing a game that brings that out in people.

But I do wish ST would spare us the stupid, overwrought “justifications”.

[Viscere]

Originally Posted by Convict [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If there was a way to make Vulak stop spawning they would do that too once they got what they wanted, or if they started to lose Vulak to another guild. Its just an ego thing.

This is where guilds like ST, or Rampage etc were wrong

competition is fun.

Vanquish vs Riot is what keeps blue alive, with Kittens and now couple of other guilds also getting targets on quakes.

This is time locked, it's not like we are all gonna move on into luclin in 3 months

[adruidarkly]

There never really was an environment for good competition. The real competition was attrition of players trickling over to the farm green with blue experience guild. Toss in the fact it’s not about playing good but being able to play anytime and you’ve removed any hope of real progression or nuanced multi guild competition.

The players of green deserved better stewards.