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Old 07-23-2011, 10:26 PM
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Rule 1 of arguing with drug addicts - don't bother.
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Old 07-24-2011, 11:28 AM
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The one that shows racial and class disparities is when you get into the differences in sentences/punishment for Powder vs Crack cocaine. Who buys Crack cocaine? Po (stupid) folk. Who buys powder cocaine? White people, and people that make Crack.
a lot of time when people go buy that powder cocaine it was crack only minutes earlier... didnt read that in a book though
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Old 07-24-2011, 11:29 AM
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so who ends up lookin (stupid) in that situation
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Old 07-24-2011, 11:53 AM
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The debt ceiling should not be raised. Not raising the debt ceiling does not mean that we will default. We have plenty of money to pay the principal and interest and figure out how far we can stretch what is left. Besides, we've had several significant defaults in our history, and this is nothing new. Not to mention we continually default through inflation.

What we really need to do is stop giving politicians blank checks and force them to work within some sort of budget dictated by tax revenue, not by putting the whole country on an adjustable rate mortgage while we have interest rates this low when it is certain that they can't remain low forever.

That said, it certainly doesn't mean just raise taxes until we can cover our current obligations. Our current obligations exist because of a culture of reckless spending on both sides, and that is what needs to be addressed. There can be such a thing as a fiscally conservative Democrat. Too bad Republicans tend be be more of social conservatives than fiscal ones. Maybe I could get behind them more if they stopped pushing social issues.

As for the other direction of this thread, no drugs should be prohibited by law, at least not at the Federal level. Addicts and abusers shouldn't be treated as criminals. Non-violent drug offenders do not deserve to be in prison. They aren't hurting anyone but themselves, and they should be free to do so. Instead of trying to protect people from themselves, try giving them no option but to be responsible, and maybe you'd see the populace wise up a bit.
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Old 07-24-2011, 01:46 PM
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a lot of time when people go buy that powder cocaine it was crack only minutes earlier... didnt read that in a book though
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Old 07-24-2011, 01:55 PM
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As for the other direction of this thread, no drugs should be prohibited by law, at least not at the Federal level. Addicts and abusers shouldn't be treated as criminals. Non-violent drug offenders do not deserve to be in prison. They aren't hurting anyone but themselves, and they should be free to do so. Instead of trying to protect people from themselves, try giving them no option but to be responsible, and maybe you'd see the populace wise up a bit.
This ^. Vote Ron Paul
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Old 07-24-2011, 02:10 PM
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Fitter, happier, more productive,
comfortable,
not drinking too much,
regular exercise at the gym (3 days a week),
getting on better with your associate employee contemporaries,
at ease,
eating well (no more microwave dinners and saturated fats),
a patient better driver,
a safer car (baby smiling in back seat),
sleeping well (no bad dreams),
no paranoia,
careful to all animals (never washing spiders down the plughole),
keep in contact with old friends (enjoy a drink now and then),
will frequently check credit at (moral) bank (hole in the wall),
favors for favors,
fond but not in love,
charity standing orders,
on Sundays ring road supermarket (no killing moths or putting boiling water on the ants),
car wash (also on Sundays),
no longer afraid of the dark or midday shadows
nothing so ridiculously teenage and desperate,
nothing so childish - at a better pace,
slower and more calculated,
no chance of escape,
now self-employed,
concerned (but powerless),
an empowered and informed member of society (pragmatism not idealism),
will not cry in public,
less chance of illness,
tires that grip in the wet
(shot of baby strapped in back seat),
a good memory,
still cries at a good film,
still kisses with saliva,
no longer empty and frantic like a cat tied to a stick,
that's driven into frozen winter shit
(the ability to laugh at weakness),
calm,
fitter,
healthier and more productive
a pig in a cage on antibiotics.
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Old 07-25-2011, 02:47 PM
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yeah but that's dirty [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
its ok, we can't expect you all on the meth coast to remember how crack works [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 07-25-2011, 08:12 PM
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Money as Debt:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dc3sKwwAaCU

watch this, very interesting.
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Old 07-26-2011, 12:41 AM
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Arguing about the legalization of marijuana will get us nowhere. Yes it is classified as a class I drug, but in actuality it does have multiple medical uses. The only reason it is illegal is because of personal agendas. It was grown as a cash crop back in washingtons day, became illegal in the jazz movement because black people smoked it, and the government did not want white society embracing something with the jazz movement. Look it up you can find many books on this. The people who argue that marijuana is as bad as cocaine are narrow minded and don't know what they are talking about, but people believe what they are told.

As far as the government changing for the people, ha, the government is run by corrupt people who are only concerned about their own agendas. We get to elect who we want into office, yet we are forced to choose between two people who are picked for us. Sure there are other people running but they are not shown on the debates or televised. Things wont change around here until the government starts to see a collapse. But if that happens i'm sure some so called "bad guy" will do something and we will go to war and be united under the government and completely forget about the way things were being run.

Lol sorry if this seems like a long unpunctuated rant, but it is becoming more and more obvious that we the people no longer matter in making decisions for ourselves.
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