Home Ownership

[Jibartik]

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[nostalgiaquest]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I refuse to live in a society where working 9-5 and raising a family in a home you own is considered a failure.
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Sounds like you'd like it in socialist Europe [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Jibartik]

I get what your saying but I think you're thinking of the shire. Meaning a utopian fantasy. Reality over there is just as bleak as it is here.

[nostalgiaquest]

Yeah there's some truth to that. We're considering buy a house here in the Netherlands, and the market is fuckin crazy. Listed for 500, sells for 750 type shit.

But if you're looking to be a proud boring family man, Netherlands is the place for you. It's so wholesome here it makes me sick lol. Everyone thinks of crazy Amsterdam, but this place is really just a series of small villages. Pretty shire-like really, minus the architecture and with much shittier weather.

[BlackBellamy]

You must really be impressed with our climate change efforts to be investing in real estate where one third of the country is below sea level.

[nostalgiaquest]

This thought has crossed our minds. Which is why i use the word "considering" lol. I also don't know if I can settle in a country that has no mountains. The flatness here is so unnerving.

[Gustoo]

Originally Posted by robayon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What are the things that are being done (or not done) that make so-called small businesses unable to operate successfully?

Have you ever tried to open one? Have you ever tried to pay taxes for one, have you ever tried to pay for medical care for employees or yourself while operating your own business? Have you ever tried to acquire a business license? Have you ever tried to install a commercial kitchen in a building, or get "occupancy" in said building for one of many other different reasons? Have you ever tried to get liability insurance for a business?

I'm not talking about so-called small business I am talking about actually small business started by people who actually need a business to make money, not people coming to the table with a half a million dollars from their uncle to blow getting the business up and running.

If you have 500,000 dollars you can start most businesses no problem.

Sorry for answering indirectly. The best way to understand the difficulty is to imagine a business you would like to operate or just theoretically think might be OK and work through the steps and challenges some of which I've listed above and see if it makes sense to start that business anymore or if you're maybe better off taking a job at starbucks.

[robayon]

Yes, I was self employed for years. I am not now. I did not have employees and I paid for my own health insurance. I had a million bucks in liability insurance, but this was also pre-2008 crash so that was a different economy. The 2008 crash killed it pretty dead, I made it through 2010 before I ran out of money and threw in the towel.

I sometimes think of doing it again now that I am more mature, but I got pretty tired of the dog bites and resulting infections, stitches, and medical costs are just too insane these days compared to pre-2008.

[Toxigen]

if you dont own multiple properties in your 30s its time to unplug from everquest

[Jibartik]

Originally Posted by Toxigen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

if you dont own multiple properties in your 30s its time to unplug from everquest