Biden sets the stage for world war 2 v2: Merika vs the red terror

[Jibartik]

Originally Posted by Reiwa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I guess I got confused by the distinction you seemed to assert, be precise with your words young lobster.

But anyway that's called blast lensing I think.

I dont think they are very big on saftey protocals.

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[mcoy]

No one wants to deal with radiation. It'll be high-altitude detonations to generate EMPs. There's a book with an interesting take on the scenario:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Second_After

And then there's:

https://youtu.be/B203twyaMfM?t=10

-Mcoy

[robayon]

Originally Posted by mcoy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No one wants to deal with radiation. It'll be high-altitude detonations to generate EMPs. There's a book with an interesting take on the scenario:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Second_After

-Mcoy

Oh neat that looks like an interesting read, thanks!

[Jibartik]

[Ooloo]

That underwater one is one of the coolest pieces of footage I've ever seen. It's awe-inspiring. Really puts the whole topic in perspective. Baker was a bit more powerful than the ww2 nukes, but it was exploded thirty meters underwater which absorbs a huge amount of the energy right off the bat.

[Jibartik]

"where's the radiation go?"

"aquatic food supply"

"PHEW, glad it goes somewhere it can get cleaned up!"

[Jibartik]

Map of the people who will survive mutually assured destruction is more like it.

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We live in a stucco bladerunner

[walfreyydo]

Putins regime is based on corruption. Putin controls other countries through corruption. Corrupt leaders are viewed favorably because they are easy to control and manipulate by Putin.

Putin hated Hillary Clinton, Obama, and now Biden because they stand for values anti-thetical to Putin's regime and power center (ie: democratic values). He liked Trump because he is clearly corruptible, and has authoritarian tendancies... This is obvious and not debatable.

After Maidan (February 2014) Ukrainians overthrew Putin's puppet Yanokovich (not after killing over 100 unarmed protestors, mainly by police forces supplied by Russia). Anyone who followed these events closely at the time understood this and saw this as a grassroots uprising supported by the vast majority of the Ukrainian people. Russia tried to portay this as a coup by the west, but the truth was, the Ukrainian people were tired of the post Soviet oligarchical system, which exists in many post-Soviet states (like Ukraine and Belarus, but also Khazakstan, Chechnya and others) as a way for Putin to control them.

What is this whole Russian aggression towards Ukraine about? Its about Ukraine's move towards the embracing of democratic values since 2014 and Putin's loss of control over THE most important country within the Russian sphere. It has nothing to do with NATO, it has nothing to do with the USA outside of the fact that we are (supposed to be at least) champions of democratic norms.

As you may remember, Russia annexed Crimea and invaded Eastern Ukraine shortly after the ousting of Yanukovich (who fled, not surprisingly, to Russia). This was meant to keep Ukraine in disarray (which they were) and pressure/warn Ukraine to not move out of Russia's orbit or enact further corruption/democratic reforms. Despite that, Ukraine civil society has continued to reform their former corrupt republic. Since 2014, the vast majority of Ukrainians now see Russia (formerly their sister country) as an enemy and as a country which wants to control them and keep them corrupt.

Ultimately what is this about? Its about Putin wanting to stop Ukrainians from becoming a corruption-free democracy. This is a direct threat to Putin's regime because if the Russian people see their "sister country" living in a system where everyone has opportunity and free of corruption, then they, the Russian people, will begin to question why they cannot also have that too.

Putin's greatest fear is the collapse of his corrupt system through a revolution we have seen in not only Ukraine, but also Georgia (which he also invaded shortly after the Rose Revolution there). Since 2014 Putin has watched Ukraine continue its path of reforms and undoubtedly watched what happened in Ukraine in 2014 with absolute dread.

Make no mistake, this is an existential fight for Putin. Thats what this is about, and its his greatest fear.

I think ultimately Putin would prefer Ukraine be a failed state/warzone than become an eastern European democracy. I also think that he underestimates how patriotic and willing to fight the Ukrainian people are. Surely it will extract an enormous cost on the Russian military and population's public opinion. His propaganda machine is in full swing trying to portray this as NATO aggression, but at the end of the day, it will be hard to justify to the Russian people why he is leveling their "sister country" when they actually aren't a member of NATO (and have no plans to be in the near term).

The Ukrainians I have met, including my father in law, have said they will never live under Russian rule again and I am absolutely sure that if Putin does invade, its going to go very badly in the long term. His military wont be able to handle the incredible insurgency/partisan warfare that will come later, especially from western Ukraine where Russia will very likely have little presence. They might take Kyiv, but they cant control the whole country.


Source: married to a Ukrainian, and know many personally

[Evia]

What if NATO and the US are actually trying to initiate a one world government but countries like Russia and China are getting in the way? So they make Russia and China look like the bad guys to everyone so when they take them over, they look like the heroes and not the baddies?

I would have never thought this before except the US and all the NATO counties are the ones who are laying out the most tyrannical vax mandates and laws. Seems pretty suspicious to me.

We're not the bad guys are we?

[Jibartik]

Simple fact:

When obama/biden in whitehouse putin takes crimea

when trump is in white house he does not

when obama/biden is in white house, world war 3 starts on wednessday.

Anything else is just hyperbole.

Originally Posted by Evia [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What if NATO and the US are actually trying to initiate a one world government but countries like Russia and China are getting in the way? So they make Russia and China look like the bad guys to everyone so when they take them over, they look like the heroes and not the baddies?

I would have never thought this before except the US and all the NATO counties are the ones who are laying out the most tyrannical vax mandates and laws. Seems pretty suspect to me.

We're not the bad guys are we?

100% look at the most vocal leftists on these boards, they are now activlyl saying they are not liberals, theyre "leftists".. meaning they are abandoning all reason and going full authoritarian.

The end is nigh. This is it. See you in Colorado!