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Old 01-12-2022, 08:35 PM
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I thought Congress controlled the Capitol Police but then I got debunked.

I still think it.
It’s ok

It doesn’t matter whether it’s congress or chief of police or the city administration, assigning 1 officer per 500 people or whatever the ratio is just absurd. Especially considering it’s a political rally and one that occurred AFTER all the chaos of the 2020 riots. Any decent planner should have realized that a political rally can turn into a riot in a flash

Then afterwards Congress spent millions upon millions of dollars to “secure” the capital against future attacks that didn’t happen. I’m not calling that a complete waste, because maybe secretly there was some plan to attack the capital again that was deterred by the ridiculous police-state levels of security. Buuuut it’s way too reactive when the city admin should have been proactive
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Old 01-12-2022, 10:42 PM
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I mean we’ve been having massive, actual riots since Obama was in office (thanks, Obama)

This was not a riot, and there’s overwhelming evidence that police escorted them in to take pictures and leave. I think 1 cop per 500 is too much tbh since no police were needed. Especially that one dude who didn’t get the memo and shot an innocent woman
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Old 01-12-2022, 11:08 PM
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Oh look. All the guns, knifea, tomahawks, axes, hatchets, poles, tasers, mace, shields, sticks, more poles, more sticks, more knifes. There were hundreds of weapons, a few guns. At least a few dozen rounds floating around in the crowd on those gun belts.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article...eapons-charges

Here is a short list.

▪ At least a dozen firearms and several high-capacity magazines containing hundreds of rounds of ammunition.

▪ Several tasers and stun guns, among them a “Hike n’ Strike” walking stick capable of delivering a 950,000-volt shock and the one a Southern California defendant, Daniel Rodriguez, allegedly used against a Washington, D.C., police officer who suffered a heart attack.

▪ Makeshift explosives, including a firecracker and 11 mason jars filled with flammable liquid accompanied by lighters and rags.

▪ Knives, axes and “several machetes.”

▪ Bear spray, pepper spray and other unidentified irritant sprays — used liberally enough to create a “chemical fog,” according to a lawsuit filed by Capitol Police officers against Trump and others.

▪ Fire extinguishers, also used to spray and bludgeon police officers.

▪ Batons, clubs, riot shields, ax handles, planks and furniture.

▪ Numerous poles, some sharpened, often attached to American and Trump flags, used in several cases to beat, stab and slash police officers.

▪ A large, metal Trump campaign sign deployed as a battering ram against those protecting the building.

▪ Sporting equipment used to hit officers, including baseball bats, a hockey stick and a skateboard.

▪ A crossbow, a whip and a spear.
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Old 01-12-2022, 11:10 PM
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And heres a long list, with the names of the defendants they were taken from. This was compiled oct 11th 2021

ALAM, Zachary Jordan

Helmet

ALBERTS, Christopher Michael

Handgun (Alberts was arrested after the riot was over, at 7:25 p.m., on a street near the Capitol and was accused of having a firearm.)

BALLARD, Thomas John

Police baton

BARNETT, Richard

Stun gun, walking stick

BARNHART, Logan James

Baton, flagpole, crutch

BLACK, Joshua Matthew

Knife

BLAIR, David Alan

Flagpole, knife

BROCKHOFF, Nicholas James

Fire extinguisher

BYERLY, Alan William

Taser

CALDWELL, Daniel Ray

Pepper or mace spray

CAPUCCIO, Steven

Baton

CHRESTMAN, William

Ax handle

COFFEE, Luke Russell

Crutch

COFFMAN, Lonnie Leroy

Multiple firearms (Coffman is not charged with being on Capitol grounds; allegedly had two guns on his person, plus firearms in his truck parked on 1st Street SE in Washington D.C.)

COPELAND, Landon Kenneth

Metal fence

CUA, Bruno Joseph

Baton

DEMPSEY, David Nicholas

Crutch, metal pole, "lacrimal spray," and "club-like object"

EISENHART, Lisa Marie

Taser

FAIRLAMB, Scott Kevin

Baton

FOY, Michael Joseph

Hockey stick

GIESWEIN, Robert

Baseball bat, "aerosol irritant spray"

GOSSJANKOWSKI, Vitali

Taser

HARKRIDER, Alex Kirk

Tomahawk ax

IBRAHIM, Mark Sami

Firearm

JACKSON, Emanuel

Metal baseball bat

JAMES, Aaron

Shield

JENKINS, Shane Leedon

Tomahawk ax, flagpole, desk drawer, and "stick-like objects"

JENSEN, Douglas Austin

Knife

JOHNSON, Paul Russell

Metal crowd control barrier

JONES, Chad Barrett

Flagpole

JUDD, David Lee

Firecracker

KHATER, Julian Elie

Chemical spray (Accused of attacking Officer Brian Sicknick)

KLEIN, Federico Guillermo

Shield

KRAMER, Philip Edward

Snowboarding helmet, walking cane, Master Lock, climbing rope

LANG, Edward Jacob

Bat, shield

LANGUERAND, Nicholas

Traffic barrier, "stick-like objects"

LAZAR, Samuel

Chemical irritant

MCABEE, Ronald Colton

Baton, flagpole, crutch, and "reinforced gloves"

MCCAUGHEY, Patrick E. III

Shield

MCGREW, James Burton

Pole

MCHUGH, Sean Michael

Bear spray, "metal sign"

MCKELLOP, Jeffrey

Flagpole

MEREDITH, Cleveland Grover Jr.

Firearms (Meredith arrived in Washington after the riot was over but was charged with having three guns in his possession.)

MELLIS, Jonathan Gennaro

Stick

MILLER, Matthew Ryan

Fire extinguisher

MINK, Jorden Robert

Baseball bat

MUNAFO, Jonathan Joshua

Flagpole

MUNCHEL, Eric

Taser

NEEFE, Marshall

Wooden club, "metal sign frame"

NICHOLS, Ryan Taylor

Crowbar, pepper spray

OWENS, Grady Douglas

Skateboard

PADILLA, Joseph Lino

Flagpole, "large metal sign"

PALMER, Robert Scott

Fire extinguisher, "stick-like object"

PERKINS, Michael Steven

Flagpole

POLLOCK, Jonathan Daniel

Flagpole, riot shield

PONDER, Mark K.

Pole

POWELL, Rachel Marie

Ice ax, "large wooden pole"

QUAGLIN, Christopher Joseph

Shield, pepper spray

RANDOLPH, Stephen Chase

Metal crowd control barrier

REFFITT, Guy Wesley

Handgun

RODRIGUEZ, Daniel

Flagpole, "electroshock weapon"

RODRIGUEZ, Edward Francisco

Chemical irritant

SABOL, Jeffrey

Baton, flagpole, crutch

SAMSEL, Ryan Stephen

Metal crowd control barrier

SANFORD, Robert

Fire extinguisher

SCHAFFER, Jon

Bear spray

SCHWARTZ, Peter J.

Pepper spray

SILLS, Geoffrey William

Baton

SMITH, Charles Bradford

Knife

STAGER, Peter Francis

Baton, flagpole, crutch

STEVENS, Tristan Chandler

Shield

SULLIVAN, John Earle

Knife

TAAKE, Andrew Quentin

Pepper spray, metal whip

TANIOS, George Pierre

Chemical spray (Accused of attacking Officer Brian Sicknick)

TAYLOR, Russell

Knife

THOMPSON, Devlyn

Baton

WATSON, William

Pepper spray

WEBSTER, Thomas

Flagpole

WESTBURY, Isaac

Shield

WHITTON, Jack Wade

Baton, flagpole, crutch

WILSON, Duke Edward

Pipe

WORRELL, Christopher John

Pepper spray
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Old 01-12-2022, 11:13 PM
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Gravy, where is your DD-214?
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Old 01-12-2022, 11:23 PM
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The riot happened easily

The overturning the government wouldn’t. Especially considering the rioters weren’t armed. Maybe I just suck at insurrection but I can’t figure out how unarmed rioters permanently change government function
Thats a lie. They were armed. They had guns. They had weapons. I guess nobody in that crowd was a trained knight so the weapons dont count unless they were anti-tank or something, right? Cause anything to cover for the rioters. "only lumber jacks know how to use axes" or "flag pole is not a weapon even if you swing it 50 mph into my head" say something silly like that..

It was the police, right? It was their fault for not having a thousand officers there and trusted the christian patriots, the honest people of america, to act like human beings. I guess that was just too much to expect from the GOP. 20 mins later, they were smearing shit everywhere then looting and jumping around like a bunch of animals hootin and hollering.
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Old 01-12-2022, 11:38 PM
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Old 01-12-2022, 11:46 PM
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▪ Sporting equipment used to hit officers, including baseball bats, a hockey stick and a skateboard.
Wrap it up Trompies, by your own logic the police should have gunned you down in the street.
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Old 01-12-2022, 11:49 PM
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Thats a lie. They were armed. They had guns. They had weapons. I guess nobody in that crowd was a trained knight so the weapons dont count unless they were anti-tank or something, right? Cause anything to cover for the rioters. "only lumber jacks know how to use axes" or "flag pole is not a weapon even if you swing it 50 mph into my head" say something silly like that..

It was the police, right? It was their fault for not having a thousand officers there and trusted the christian patriots, the honest people of america, to act like human beings. I guess that was just too much to expect from the GOP. 20 mins later, they were smearing shit everywhere then looting and jumping around like a bunch of animals hootin and hollering.
Think it was enough to topple the current government and install Donald Trump as President? Because that’s what people are suggesting

I mean, I dunno. I did see a crossbow in there
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Old 01-12-2022, 11:51 PM
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