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Old 12-08-2021, 05:55 PM
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1963 President John F. Kennedy signs the Community Mental Health Act. This pushes the responsibility of mentally ill patients from the state toward the federal government. JFK wanted to create a network of community mental health centers where mentally ill people could live in the community while receiving care. JFK could have been inspired to act because his younger sister, Rosemary, was mentally disabled, received a lobotomy and spent her life hidden away.

Less than a month after signing the new legislation, JFK is assassinated. The community mental health centers never receive stable funding, and even 15 years later less than half the promised centers are built.
He wasn't getting rid of mental health hospitals, he was trying to make better ones.

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1967 Ronald Reagan is elected governor of California. At this point, the number of patients in state hospitals had fallen to 22,000, and the Reagan administration uses the decline as a reason to make cuts to the Department of Mental Hygiene. They cut 2,600 jobs and 10 percent of the budget despite reports showing that hospitals were already below recommended staffing levels.

1967 Reagan signs the Lanterman-Petris-Short Act and ends the practice of institutionalizing patients against their will, or for indefinite amounts of time. This law is regarded by some as a “patient’s bill of rights”. Sadly, the care outside state hospitals was inadequate. The year after the law goes into effect, a study shows the number of mentally ill people entering San Mateo's criminal justice system doubles.

1969 Reagan reverses earlier budget cuts. He increases spending on the Department of Mental Hygiene by a record $28 million.

1973 The number of patients in California State mental hospitals falls to 7,000.
Again, it was Republicans who kicked all the crazy people onto the street. Maybe don't try to prove the exact opposite of your point with facts that contradict that point?
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He wasn't getting rid of mental health hospitals, he was trying to make better ones.

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oh my god you seriously are going to read the links I give you then try to tell me that Im wrong?

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Again, it was Republicans who kicked all the crazy people onto the street. Maybe don't try to prove the exact opposite of your point with facts that contradict that point?
Whats wrong with you is that you dont understand how politics and goverment works, you think that one side is the bad guy.

It's obvious that you dont care about anything but your belief system so who cares but here you go:

JFK REPLACED TEH ASYLMS WITH FEDERAL GOVERMENT OVER SIGHT WHICH THE GOVERMENT THEN GOT RID OF.

He shut down 500,000 beds and replaced them with a PROGRAM.

A program that like all goverment programs suffers from failing miserably at its job. (I dont care that you blame daddy raglan for it, its HIS JOB to reduce goverment spending )

People believe that the goverment solves all your problems then when conservatives use the goverment to get rid of your programs before they even start you blame republicans.

At least with their program, the homeless actually had care and shelter.

Whatever you dont care. Go on wearing your pink hat.
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Old 12-08-2021, 06:56 PM
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oh my god you seriously are going to read the links I give you then try to tell me that Im wrong?



Whats wrong with you is that you dont understand how politics and goverment works, you think that one side is the bad guy.

It's obvious that you dont care about anything but your belief system so who cares but here you go:

JFK REPLACED TEH ASYLMS WITH FEDERAL GOVERMENT OVER SIGHT WHICH THE GOVERMENT THEN GOT RID OF.

He shut down 500,000 beds and replaced them with a PROGRAM.

A program that like all goverment programs suffers from failing miserably at its job. (I dont care that you blame daddy raglan for it, its HIS JOB to reduce goverment spending you dolt)

God I hate how you people believe that the goverment solves all your problems then when conservatives use the goverment to get rid of your programs before they even start you blame republicans.

At least with their program, the homeless actually had care and shelter.

Whatever you dont care. Go on wearing your pink hat.
Reagan repealed most of Carter's mental health act, except for the part about liberating the camps and rights and crap. He then gave the states block grant $$$ to deal with it on their own.

New Federalism go brrr.
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Old 12-08-2021, 07:16 PM
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oh my god you seriously are going to read the links I give you then try to tell me that Im wrong?

Whats wrong with you is that you dont understand how politics and goverment works, you think that one side is the bad guy.
Look obviously both sides are the bad guy in just about any political discussion, and that's no less true here. But again, just a basic understanding of history shows that it was Republican forces that were largely responsible for why we have millions of crazy homeless people in the streets instead of in institutions.

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1981 President Reagan repeals Carter’s legislation with the Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act. This pushes the responsibility of mentally ill patients back to the states. The legislation creates block grants for the states, but federal spending on mental illness declines.
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