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Old 07-19-2011, 04:56 PM
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Skope i bet you would gain many points with your guild if you simply removed them from your sig. You can be proud of the guild your in, but you may want to consider that they may not want to be directly associated with some of the garbage you spew. Everytime you say something stupid i associate it with Divinity. Not saying its fair, but thats life.

You should feel honored that many people including myself have higher expectations for a guild as respected as yours.
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Old 07-19-2011, 04:57 PM
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Or maybe the GM's should stop answering every stupid complaint. Do people put in bitchy petitions when a guild calls themselves "The Premiere Raid Guild on P99"? Probably not because they know it doesn't matter if they are or aren't. It's not your job to police outside the server Uthgaard. People know you have a penchant to pull the trigger on banning first and ask questions later, I used to hang out in the public mumble channel and I see the way many people on this server think, interact, and try to manipulate gms. They're not actually complaining because they care, they're complaining because they know it pisses you off. You are highly predictable in how you react to situations and your completely unveiled threats are something people feel they can easily induce.

It is my suggestion that you, not everyone else, think about changing some things up.

With that said, I understand that you spend a lot of time here doing a largely thankless job and I do appreciate it - I would have stopped a long time ago if I was you - but that also doesn't mean people should simply shut up or cower anytime you make a threat to ban us. This is a game, it's meant as an escape from our regular every day lives and the last thing people want to worry about is if they'll lose the time they've put into developing a character and reputation simply because a person with power is annoyed by a joke they made on a completely unrelated webpage, or in game for that matter. If you're going to rage on Perun for that update I suggest you also begin policing the FoH forums and banning people who talk mountains of shit about you and the rest of the staff, post pictures showing they use TPPs, and do things like find Rogean's facebook page and post personal information from it.

RnF is for people to vent and talk shit in and our own guild webpages are for us to do what we will. If you spent less time tapping into raid guild chats and more time doing things you enjoy perhaps people won't view you as a kid on a power trip.

Again, I have nothing personal against you. You've always acted normal in my personal interactions with you, however few they may be, but you're acting like this update is affecting the integrity of this server which it is not. People just realize you think their complaining is indicative of the pseudo-gm favortism worries and use it to get you angry. Stop letting the trolls get to you.
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Old 07-19-2011, 05:00 PM
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Loke is Bort, mystery closed. next case please
Right? Finally got my guide app approved! I mean, I've been in TR for months now... about time!

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I don't get how a joke about gm favoritism leads to people being legitimately concerned about gm favoritism.
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he can't edit them in RnF but he CAN edit them in server chat where this thread started.....
OR CAN HE?!

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I'm thinkin they merely went on the defensive because uth came out of the box wielding the banhammer in a menacing manner. I feel like just asking them nicely in a pm or a tell or something to remove it because it was causing unnecessary problems would have worked, too.
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Seriously though, I was kind of annoyed about being asked to edit my post at first (not by anyone on the server staff - was a guild member) - never did I think that censoring my own post would result in MORE conspiracy theories. Amazing.
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Old 07-19-2011, 05:00 PM
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Or maybe the GM's should stop answering every stupid complaint. Do people put in bitchy petitions when a guild calls themselves "The Premiere Raid Guild on P99"? Probably not because they know it doesn't matter if they are or aren't. It's not your job to police outside the server Uthgaard. People know you have a penchant to pull the trigger on banning first and ask questions later, I used to hang out in the public mumble channel and I see the way many people on this server think, interact, and try to manipulate gms. They're not actually complaining because they care, they're complaining because they know it pisses you off. You are highly predictable in how you react to situations and your completely unveiled threats are something people feel they can easily induce.

It is my suggestion that you, not everyone else, think about changing some things up.

With that said, I understand that you spend a lot of time here doing a largely thankless job and I do appreciate it - I would have stopped a long time ago if I was you - but that also doesn't mean people should simply shut up or cower anytime you make a threat to ban us. This is a game, it's meant as an escape from our regular every day lives and the last thing people want to worry about is if they'll lose the time they've put into developing a character and reputation simply because a person with power is annoyed by a joke they made on a completely unrelated webpage, or in game for that matter. If you're going to rage on Perun for that update I suggest you also begin policing the FoH forums and banning people who talk mountains of shit about you and the rest of the staff, post pictures showing they use TPPs, and do things like find Rogean's facebook page and post personal information from it.

RnF is for people to vent and talk shit in and our own guild webpages are for us to do what we will. If you spent less time tapping into raid guild chats and more time doing things you enjoy perhaps people won't view you as a kid on a power trip.

Again, I have nothing personal against you. You've always acted normal in my personal interactions with you, however few they may be, but you're acting like this update is affecting the integrity of this server which it is not. People just realize you think their complaining is indicative of the pseudo-gm favortism worries and use it to get you angry. Stop letting the trolls get to you.
This is true. There is a post in the RnF forums about GM Descisions. This was a troll but even so those people petitioning and sending tells to GM's complaining about a thought to be GM descision should be the ones punished.
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Old 07-19-2011, 05:06 PM
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Skope i bet you would gain many points with your guild if you simply removed them from your sig. You can be proud of the guild your in, but you may want to consider that they may not want to be directly associated with some of the garbage you spew. Everytime you say something stupid i associate it with Divinity. Not saying its fair, but thats life.

You should feel honored that many people including myself have higher expectations for a guild as respected as yours.
if you think it's garbage i'm spewing i'd love to hear it. I've had a few PM conversations with members of TR that ultimately ended with them accusing me of the same crap but never noting where or why or how i was wrong, just "quit flaming." I'm gonna call people out on bullshit, regardless of what tag is beneath their name.

I'm actually extremely self-less in-game (gave away all my god/dragon loot to guildies), helpful and I'm extremely easy to get along with in tells or in-game. The fact that you don't like what I have to say and think that it somehow tarnishes my name or my guild's name is your issue. I've long quit giving a shit about p99 (as has most of divinity) and only play a couple hours a week or so as I've already explained to Shiftin. The forums are quite fun, though.
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Old 07-19-2011, 05:16 PM
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This thread is a sad commentary on many people, but mostly on the people that started this farce in the first place.

Now, back to the popcorn.
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Or you people could quit being children and stop treating minor issues as major infractions. There are tons of petitions coming in for reasons that can actually be resolved quickly and don't culminate in a message board brawl by a bunch of adults acting like brats.
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Old 07-19-2011, 05:18 PM
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Skope i bet you would gain many points with your guild if you simply removed them from your sig. You can be proud of the guild your in, but you may want to consider that they may not want to be directly associated with some of the garbage you spew. Everytime you say something stupid i associate it with Divinity. Not saying its fair, but thats life.

You should feel honored that many people including myself have higher expectations for a guild as respected as yours.
as a member of divinity I can say confidently that Skope's views rarely represent the views of his guild. In his defense though, I think if a person associates the views of one member with that of the whole guild, I'm not sure I care about their opinion anyway.
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Old 07-19-2011, 05:20 PM
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if you think it's garbage i'm spewing i'd love to hear it.
I know this isn't what this thread is about - but since you asked...

Your solution for raid bosses was garbage. Removing variance was just an absolutely horrible solution. Like, if we were having a contest for the worst suggestion possible, that would hands down win it.

Other than that, I've always actually read Skope's posts (where as I skip over a lot of posters the second I see their name) because while I don't always agree with him, he always seems to make a sincere attempt to address the topic in a thoughtful and genuine manner.
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Old 07-19-2011, 05:25 PM
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even Loke defends me. Loke for god's sake!

I still stand by that variance idea. This 4-day window bullshit spawns SEQ'ers and forces people to burn out right-quick. Classic variance I'd settle with. Poopsock can be combated in other ways.

The fact that I'm still wearing a div tag and will be for the remainder of this server or I leave should say something regarding my personality... y'know?
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Old 07-19-2011, 05:37 PM
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The original post here wasn't the joke. It was a response to their website, where they posted it as a legitimate thing that happened. It also prompted tells and petitions in game, with people wanting to know why TR was allowed into a closed beta. For TR to play on that really shows where their priorities lie.
You are seriously some special kind of delusional if you think it was anything more than a VERY obvious joke.

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Especially with people like Khysanth (booter) trying their damnedest to spin things around for their own benefit, even though it's as transparent as the napkin on his lap after lunch.
What exactly am I trying to spin here? I'm not even sure this makes sense. I'm just calling out the bullshit of you trying to police the content of our guild homepage simply because some people QQ'd do you in game/on forums. Act like an adult.


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RnF is for people to vent and talk shit in and our own guild webpages are for us to do what we will. If you spent less time tapping into raid guild chats and more time doing things you enjoy perhaps people won't view you as a kid on a power trip.
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