Miscellaneous: Nerf Bowquest 99

[Baugi]

Originally Posted by Imago [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is what you think is right, Baugi.

Thanks, but no thanks. If it's classic, it's classic. It doesn't have to make sense.

I'm sorry that your character is inconvenienced by this bug and/or feature, but that's no reason to misrepresent evidence.

Originally Posted by Botten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Are we really talking about adding something like 75 damage to something like:
https://wiki.project1999.com/Efreeti_War_Bow

Hopefully not. It's clear from the Luclin era parse that if damage bonus is supposed to be based on bow delay, it definitely doesn't use the 2handed chart.

[Tune]

Originally Posted by Baugi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thanks, but no thanks. If it's classic, it's classic. It doesn't have to make sense.

I'm sorry that your character is inconvenienced by this bug and/or feature, but that's no reason to misrepresent evidence.



Hopefully not. It's clear from the Luclin era parse that if damage bonus is supposed to be based on bow delay, it definitely doesn't use the 2handed chart.

its no classic tho

sks only have 75 skill for a reason, they are NOT supposed to be good bowers

like how much evidence to u need? there is not 1 shred of proof people equipping a weighted axe for a bow kiting "boost"

I feel like the onus is on you to prove a game breaking bug is supposed to be the way it is

[Baugi]

Originally Posted by Tune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

its no classic tho

sks only have 75 skill for a reason, they are NOT supposed to be good bowers

like how much evidence to u need? there is not 1 shred of proof people equipping a weighted axe for a bow kiting "boost"

I feel like the onus is on you to prove a game breaking bug is supposed to be the way it is

And yet, they have near 100% accuracy with a good dex vs. agility matchup. It's telling that you don't seem to care at all about the underlying PVP formula being broken and heavily slanted towards gear/stat buffs/avatar.

I'm still waiting on any evidence really since your patch note is both inconclusive and contradicts the Luclin bow parse. I'm not the person you have to convince though. I don't know why it was implemented the way it was, just that it's been that way on P99 since ~2011.

There's a very small window where this bug/feature would've been relevant on Live (post 2handed DB buff late Velious and pre Luclin) so it makes sense that no one got around to playing with weighted axes and bows, as evidenced by the fact that we have NO in-era bow parses. You're demanding that the developers completely rewrite the archery formulas while giving them nothing to work with.

[Botten]

Originally Posted by Baugi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There's a very small window where this bug/feature would've been relevant on Live (post 2handed DB buff late Velious and pre Luclin) so it makes sense that no one got around to playing with weighted axes and bows, as evidenced by the fact that we have NO in-era bow parses. You're demanding that the developers completely rewrite the archery formulas while giving them nothing to work with.

He is probably right. If they can't use the current damage bonus, then creating a damage bonus table for those bows that have a long delay due to the inherit fact rangers can sometimes double damage and crit could be a bit of work.

Sigh maybe there just wouldn't be a damage bonus for bows at all then.

But I still stand by the fact that the damage bonus from bows right now using the Weighted Ax in PvE is not doing more damage than meleeing with weapons that often have double attack and allow riposte or (crit and berserk; if an Ogre or Troll warrior)

[Tune]

Originally Posted by Botten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

He is probably right. If they can't use the current damage bonus, then creating a damage bonus table for those bows that have a long delay due to the inherit fact rangers can sometimes double damage and crit could be a bit of work.

Sigh maybe there just wouldn't be a damage bonus for bows at all then.

But I still stand by the fact that the damage bonus from bows right now using the Weighted Ax in PvE is not doing more damage than meleeing with weapons that often have double attack and allow riposte or (crit and berserk; if an Ogre or Troll warrior)

thats simply not true if u can bow outside of fear range when u would normally get feared / killed by aoes

[Tune]

Originally Posted by Baugi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And yet, they have near 100% accuracy with a good dex vs. agility matchup. It's telling that you don't seem to care at all about the underlying PVP formula being broken and heavily slanted towards gear/stat buffs/avatar.

are we playing the same game? no they dont, not even close

Originally Posted by Baugi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm still waiting on any evidence really since your patch note is both inconclusive and contradicts the Luclin bow parse. I'm not the person you have to convince though. I don't know why it was implemented the way it was, just that it's been that way on P99 since ~2011.

no it hasn't , it broke very recently with the 2hd damage bonus patch. PROVE to me it should be broken like the way it is

Originally Posted by Baugi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There's a very small window where this bug/feature would've been relevant on Live (post 2handed DB buff late Velious and pre Luclin) so it makes sense that no one got around to playing with weighted axes and bows, as evidenced by the fact that we have NO in-era bow parses. You're demanding that the developers completely rewrite the archery formulas while giving them nothing to work with.

reaching /cringe