Just got the vaccine and right away feel different in bad way, should I call doctor??

[Whale biologist]

I also think you're allowed to cure ballots, so the first column is wrong too.

Yikes.

[Ooloo]

Originally Posted by Whale biologist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Might want to research this. *points at college students*

Yes, college students can vote in their home county while living outside it. People who filed permanent change of address documentation and then still somehow voted in that county is a different issue. That's the bad part. And there were thousands of them. This also happened in georgia.

Think about how much census data is available, and how many different hands ballots, especially mail-in ballots pass through. There are dozens of opportunities for fraud to occur, it's just ignorant to deny that.

BTW this also goes for the 2016 election; maybe Trump didn't really win that, but it would be due to these same domestic voting shortcomings, not russian collusion. And also, that election did not happen during covid, with all the unorthodox voting exceptions and rule changes and vulnerabilities that it entailed.

[Ooloo]

Originally Posted by Whale biologist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I also think you're allowed to cure ballots, so the first column is wrong too.

Yikes.

What? Yes of course you can count ballots after election day, that's not the issue. The issue is that some (thousands of) ballots should have been disqualified and weren't.

That's the first order question: Does this ballot satisfy the rules? If it does, cure away, it's a valid ballot. Many ballots were counted that were not valid though, which the audit revealed.

I mean, what do you think the odds are that the count was perfect? Every legitimate ballot was counted, and every illegitimate ballot wasn't? The odds of that are essentially zero, for any election.

[Whale biologist]

Originally Posted by Ooloo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes, college students can vote in their home county while living outside it. People who filed permanent change of address documentation and then still somehow voted in that county is a different issue. That's the bad part. And there were thousands of them. This also happened in georgia.

Think about how much census data is available, and how many different hands ballots, especially mail-in ballots pass through. There are dozens of opportunities for fraud to occur, it's just ignorant to deny that.

BTW this also goes for the 2016 election; maybe Trump didn't really win that, but it would be due to these same domestic voting shortcomings, not russian collusion. And also, that election did not happen during covid, with all the unorthodox voting exceptions and rule changes and vulnerabilities that it entailed.

Mailing address isn't registration address. Trump for instance is registered to vote in New York and lives in Florida. (And his corps are registered in Delaware.)

It's not illegal, you're just an idiot.

[Whale biologist]

Originally Posted by Ooloo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What? Yes of course you can count ballots after election day, that's not the issue. The issue is that some (thousands of) ballots should have been disqualified and weren't.

That's the first order question: Does this ballot satisfy the rules? If it does, cure away, it's a valid ballot. Many ballots were counted that were not valid though, which the audit revealed.

I mean, what do you think the odds are that the count was perfect? Every legitimate ballot was counted, and every illegitimate ballot wasn't? The odds of that are essentially zero, for any election.

Curing means fixing and counting ballots that were filled out improperly. Hth

[Ooloo]

Originally Posted by Whale biologist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Curing means fixing and counting ballots that were filled out improperly. Hth

Haha yes, and also ballots that weren't counted until after the deadline. But they aren't just fixing ballots that were filled out improperly. In most cases, if a ballot is filled out improperly (like you fill in two circles sorta, cause your eyesight sucks) it's not counted, because they can't depend on the biases of the poll worker to determine who the person actually intended to vote for.

[Ooloo]

Originally Posted by Whale biologist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Mailing address isn't registration address. Trump for instance is registered to vote in New York and lives in Florida. (And his corps are registered in Delaware.)

It's not illegal, you're just an idiot.

Do you think that the lawyers running this incredibly expensive, long, legally informed audit in AZ aren't aware of that? Like, seriously, you think you know more than they do?

Of course they know when out of state or out of county votes should or shouldn't count. They found that thousands of them should not have counted. That's the point.

You still haven't answered if you think any fraud occured, regardless of whether it would have changed the outcome. Do you think fraud occurs in elections at all? Do you think they're all perfect?

[Whale biologist]

Originally Posted by Ooloo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Haha yes, and also ballots that weren't counted until after the deadline. But they aren't just fixing ballots that were filled out improperly. In most cases, if a ballot is filled out improperly (like you fill in two circles sorta, cause your eyesight sucks) it's not counted, because they can't depend on the biases of the poll worker to determine who the person actually intended to vote for.

You not knowing something does not make it illegal. Your argument is rump.

[Whale biologist]

Originally Posted by Ooloo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Do you think that the lawyers running this incredibly expensive, long, legally informed audit in AZ aren't aware of that? Like, seriously, you think you know more than they do?

I think they do know better but are willing to whisper sweet lies to you on social media in exchange for your dollars.

[Ooloo]

Originally Posted by Whale biologist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You not knowing something does not make it illegal. Your argument is rump.

Dodge dodge dodge. You're good.

Some ballots are filled out badly, where you can't tell which candidate the voter intended to vote for. Should we throw that vote out, or have somebody with political priors and biases decide?