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Old 05-17-2021, 08:00 PM
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I think it's kind of an apples and oranges deal (today): the people of Northern Ireland have voting rights.

They could leave the UK if they wanted, and as to whether they should ... it's up to them. But they should do it based on a national vote, not because The Queen said they should stay, or because some bombers said they should leave.
The Catholics had more kids and because of that should be able to vote on behalf of the entire population to leave the UK?

That’s exactly why Israel does what it does. Demographics

I was hoping you’d respond that way so you’d explain for yourself why Israel has a desire to colonize the West Bank through settlements and make Gaza unlivable. Now that you’ve figured out the unfortunate cynicism of human history, go spend your time on something that matters. Iranians and Armenians may yet be saved. The Palestinians are toast buddy. Pour one out for them
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Old 05-17-2021, 08:04 PM
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You're right, what they normalize accusing the jew of is way worse.
Who is this proverbial Jew you speak of?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histor...Jews_in_Russia
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...ferent-groups/

Few communities, even small ones, are culturally or socially monolithic. That is the case with Israeli Jews: There are only about 6 million Jews living in Israel, but there are major religious, social and political chasms that divide Jews within the borders of this small nation. Haredim, Datiim, Masortim, Hilonim.
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Old 05-17-2021, 08:05 PM
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Just saying "anyone who drops bombs on children is terrible" in this context is code for:

"jews are terrible baby killers"

which is code for:

"jews own the media and banks"

which is code for

"Ironically, im totally a qanon retard!"
Imagine being this retarded ( sorry pc people )
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Old 05-17-2021, 08:10 PM
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Obviously there are no simple answers, but I'd start with not treating Palestine like an apartheid state. No murdering children, no allowing settlers to burn down Palestinian homes, and give the Palestinian people voting rights (in Israel) or get the fuck out of their country. And this goes for anywhere in the world: no country should be occupied by another without voting rights (same damn thing that made us leave Britain).

In short, go back to the two-state solution that was negotiated (and that Israel backed out of).
I dont not broadly agree with these statements. I am a bit suprised to hear you think it's legal to burn down homes in Israel if you're a settler that's a pretty extreme image you have of the jews (that live in israel since you have a pretty high image of yourself having escaped the cult of child murderers).

And since it's an occupation, what country is Palestine if it were not occupied and who were it's allies before it became occupied by the colonialist jews?
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Old 05-17-2021, 08:11 PM
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Old 05-17-2021, 08:17 PM
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Who is this proverbial Jew you speak of?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histor...Jews_in_Russia
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...ferent-groups/

Few communities, even small ones, are culturally or socially monolithic. That is the case with Israeli Jews: There are only about 6 million Jews living in Israel, but there are major religious, social and political chasms that divide Jews within the borders of this small nation. Haredim, Datiim, Masortim, Hilonim.
https://www.adl.org/education/resour...ms/blood-libel
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Old 05-17-2021, 08:18 PM
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Maybe we need to arm Palestine as much as we arm Israel so we could see how the religion of peace reacts when they have potent weapons of war instead of sticks, rocks, and Russian trash bought off the Syrians.
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Old 05-17-2021, 09:09 PM
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While that does provide context, it doesn't answer the question in any direct humane way. No group of people defines itself by the (ignorant) views and actions of others. But setting the question aside...

There have been dehumanizing or inhumane acts.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Defamation_League

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In 2007, Abraham Foxman came under criticism for his stance on the Armenian Genocide. ADL had previously described it as a "massacre" and an "atrocity", but not as a "genocide".[138] Foxman had earlier opposed calls for the US Government to recognise it as a "genocide".[139]
And there have been humane acts.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhodes_blood_libel
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In late 1553 or 1554, Suleiman the Magnificent, the reigning Sultan of the Ottoman Empire, issued a firman (royal decree) which formally denounced blood libels against the Jews.[110] In 1840, following the Western outrage arising from the Damascus affair, British politician and leader of the British Jewish community, Sir Moses Montefiore, backed by other influential westerners including Britain's Lord Palmerston and Damascus consul Charles Henry Churchill,[111] the French lawyer Adolphe Crémieux, Austrian consul Giovanni Gasparo Merlato, Danish missionary John Nicolayson,[111] and Solomon Munk, persuaded Sultan Abdulmecid I in Constantinople, to issue a firman on 6 November 1840 intended to halt the spread of blood libel accusations in the Ottoman Empire. The edict declared that blood libel accusations were a slander against Jews and they would be prohibited throughout the Ottoman Empire, and read in part:

"... and for the love we bear to our subjects, we cannot permit the Jewish nation, whose innocence for the crime alleged against them is evident, to be worried and tormented as a consequence of accusations which have not the least foundation in truth...".
...everywhere there have been humans.
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Old 05-17-2021, 09:16 PM
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And since it's an occupation, what country is Palestine if it were not occupied and who were it's allies before it became occupied by the colonialist jews?
What even is this question, really?



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I'm fascinated by the illiberal left's love affair with Islam. Aren't they the party of feminism and separation of church and state?

Maybe we need to arm Palestine as much as we arm Israel so we could see how the religion of peace reacts when they have potent weapons of war instead of sticks, rocks, and Russian trash bought off the Syrians.
I mean, I don't think we root for Palestine because we love Islam, bro.
I think as a decent human being, when you see a country being occupied for 60 years+, where over 50% of the kids have lost their will to live, where 2 million people live in less than 300km square (dude, in comparison, imagine if Houston had the same population but was roughly 10 times smaller and nobody could escape the city) and who don't have access to clean, drinking water and have electricity on average 4 hours a day and where unemployment is in the 50%, your heart sinks, a little.

Normal human beings don't enjoy watching an occupied territory with no army having their hospitals being blown up. Normal people don't like to see children being shot at by a country just protecting itself. (against unarmed kids)

Most people look at those conditions and want an end to this.
Not everyone I guess.
Some revel in it.

And all the people without an high school diploma who think university are bad ended up being virology experts during the pandemic and now, I guess they are political experts on the israelo-palestinian conflict.

Make sense.
Dunning-Kruger in full swing.
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Old 05-17-2021, 09:24 PM
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