Game Mechanics: Main hand damage bonus is affecting bow damage

[Baugi]

Originally Posted by Beatnix [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why don't you provide some evidence that this is a normal mechanic then? All I have seen is people saying it's always been like this, with no evidence provided. With thousands of people playing eq during classic, I can't find one instance of someone using this or talking about it at all.

I couldn't tell you if it's classic or not, but it's been coded this way on P99 since at least 2018 (probably 2011? my archery logs don't go back very far) so it wouldn't really surprise me if it went largely unnoticed on Live until they revamped it in Luclin.

[Beatnix]

Originally Posted by Baugi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I couldn't tell you if it's classic or not, but it's been coded this way on P99 since at least 2018 (probably 2011? my archery logs don't go back very far) so it wouldn't really surprise me if it went largely unnoticed on Live until they revamped it in Luclin.

So youre assuming its been on p99, which has been using an out of era client, for years that it must have been like this on live? Logs from p99 are irrelevant as well. Doesn't mean it's classic.

[Baugi]

Originally Posted by Beatnix [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So youre assuming its been on p99, which has been using an out of era client, for years that it must have been like this on live? Logs from p99 are irrelevant as well. Doesn't mean it's classic.

No? I was addressing your disbelief that it could have gone largely unnoticed on live by pointing out that it went unnoticed for even longer here. Also, this is server-side code; it has nothing to do with the client.

[Beatnix]

Originally Posted by Baugi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No? I was addressing your disbelief that it could have gone largely unnoticed on live by pointing out that it went unnoticed for even longer here. Also, this is server-side code; it has nothing to do with the client.

So p99 sever doesn't have anything past velious. Nothing was taking out to make it classic..... ok bud.

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Beatnix [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So youre assuming its been on p99, which has been using an out of era client, for years that it must have been like this on live? Logs from p99 are irrelevant as well. Doesn't mean it's classic.

It went largely un-noticed on p1999 by people pretty familiar with Eq game mechanics for a decade.

Doesn't seem unlikely it would go un-noticed on live by relative noobs for 2 years.

[MiRo2]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It went largely un-noticed on p1999 by people pretty familiar with Eq game mechanics for a decade.

Doesn't seem unlikely it would go un-noticed on live by relative noobs for 2 years.

2 Hander damage bonus was part of a late velious patch on live, and wasn't implemented on p1999 until less than 2 years ago.

Patch Notes: September 8th, 2019

Rogean: [Kunark/Sep2000/Oct2001] Applied Era Rules to Weapon Damage Bonus Calculations.

[Baugi]

Originally Posted by MiRo2 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

2 Hander damage bonus was part of a late velious patch on live, and wasn't implemented on p1999 until less than 2 years ago.

They changed the values, but the bonus has been in for much longer than that.

Patch Notes, Sunday, May 29th, 2011
...
Kanras: Classic 2H dmg bonus.

To clarify my earlier claim - my logs (which go back to 2018) show rogues bow min-hitting for their one-handed damage bonus and knights bow min-hitting for more than that (regardless of bow), which suggests that P99 has been using the mainhand damage bonus for a very long time. Obviously, boosting the 2handed damage bonus made it more relevant.

[MiRo2]

This is just a guess, but the 2011 classic damage bonus change was likely taking it to classic values from whatever the stock eqemu code was. Classic bonus values were static ish, and the pre-luclin upgrade heavily incorporated weapon delay, specifically on weapons above like 38 delay.

My point was that it certainly wasn't just not noticed during live. Played on tallon starting in late classic and I never truly feared bow damage until rangers got AM3.

[Treats]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It went largely un-noticed on p1999 by people pretty familiar with Eq game mechanics for a decade.

Doesn't seem unlikely it would go un-noticed on live by relative noobs for 2 years.

Yeah it went un-noticed for a decade on here and on live for 2 years.

Wanna know why?

BECUASE IT NEVER EXISTED IN THE FIRST PLACE UNTIL LATE VELIOUS.

Completely clueless.

[Tune]

Originally Posted by Treats [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah it went un-noticed for a decade on here and on live for 2 years.

Wanna know why?

BECUASE IT NEVER EXISTED IN THE FIRST PLACE UNTIL LATE VELIOUS.

Completely clueless.

yup