Will Trump get convicted during impeachment trial?

[cd288]

Originally Posted by Cassawary [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Whatever, the punishment for conviction is removal from office. So it's moot.

Er that’s not the only punishment. Sounds like you don’t fully know what you’re talking about bud [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Cassawary]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Er that’s not the only punishment. Sounds like you don’t fully know what you’re talking about bud [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They can't sentence him to jail and I've never heard of the barred from office idea being used.

Give me an example instead of touching yourself?

[Squankle]

Originally Posted by Cassawary [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Give me an example instead of touching yourself?

From the Constitution of the United States:

Article I, Section 3, Clauses 6 and 7 provide:

The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two-thirds of the Members present. Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States; but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law.

[cd288]

Originally Posted by Cassawary [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They can't sentence him to jail and I've never heard of the barred from office idea being used.

Give me an example instead of touching yourself?

Obviously they can’t sentence him to jail, this isn’t a criminal conviction.

Barred from office is quite literally one of the penalties of being convicted in an impeachment trial. Congress does not seek that penalty; it occurs by default if you’re convicted. I think you should go educate yourself on what penalties occur when someone is convicted in their impeachment trial.

[Cassawary]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Obviously they can’t sentence him to jail, this isn’t a criminal conviction.

Barred from office is quite literally one of the penalties of being convicted in an impeachment trial. Congress does not seek that penalty; it occurs by default if you’re convicted. I think you should go educate yourself on what penalties occur when someone is convicted in their impeachment trial.

It requires a separate vote and would be subject to court challenge, Mr Dingus

[cd288]

Originally Posted by Cassawary [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It requires a separate vote and would be subject to court challenge, Mr Dingus

Actually the constitutional precedents go against it being subject to court challenge. It's not a 100% impossibility, but it would be very difficult to challenge your impeachment conviction in a separate judicial proceeding (not to mention that the Supreme Court probably wouldn't even agree to hear the case because they would say their job is to defer to the legislature on impeachment rules and results of conviction, which is true).

"The judiciary, and the Supreme Court in particular, were not chosen to have any role in impeachments" that's from a 1993 SCOTUS case. So, looks like again you don't know what you're talking about.

It's also arguable about whether it requires a separate vote. Some might say it does, but there's also precedent for viewing it as a default outcome of a conviction.

Glad to have helped you become more informed today! Just another positive to today on top of the inauguration!

[Cassawary]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Actually the constitutional precedents go against it being subject to court challenge. It's not a 100% impossibility, but it would be very difficult to challenge your impeachment conviction in a separate judicial proceeding (not to mention that the Supreme Court probably wouldn't even agree to hear the case because they would say their job is to defer to the legislature on impeachment rules and results of conviction, which is true).

"The judiciary, and the Supreme Court in particular, were not chosen to have any role in impeachments" that's from a 1993 SCOTUS case. So, looks like again you don't know what you're talking about.

It's also arguable about whether it requires a separate vote. Some might say it does, but there's also precedent for viewing it as a default outcome of a conviction.

Glad to have helped you become more informed today! Just another positive to today on top of the inauguration!

Is this how we sound when sassing the Red hats?

Wow rude 😂