Red curious...

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Originally Posted by Penish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're asking if a sub 50 pop emulated pvp server is worth playing? lol

This is really a dumb argument just used to troll because with boxing accounted for all the EMU pvp servers have about the same pop, like all two of them? if there's one I don't know about lol. Admit it most of you guys hotbox both servers (or green and blue+red99). And can't stay away from red99, or its forums because you are onlyfans.

Please reply here: Lets be super honest please about how many of you still play here. If you genuinely want to debate me so as not to troll the hell out of this newbies thread out of courtesy <3.

Also wondering what all the commotion is, over the current Red server being 'broken', and wanting/needing a new version. Is current Red something to be avoided until things improve?

There's no real good reason to avoid it aside from population. It's not broken per see. Some things aren't super duper classic. But close to classic. Like resists, agi/dex. Weighted Axe+low delay bow on an ogre (probably fixed real soon). Everything works and it feels very classic. Some players just are mad about not winning in 2018, 2014, 2016, etc and left to try and make better servers which are even less classic or allow boxing.

It uses the same (or almost same) code as green and blue do.

I'll not play live, TLP PvP or otherwise, so Red is basically going to be my go to PvP training grounds.

Red is perfect for learning how pvp works if you make it to the end game and hook up with either of the two guilds and make friends, they will support teaching u all the ropes.

Is it worth my (limited) time to begin a true newbie on Red? or should I just stick to grinding on Green?

You could hit 50 in less than a month, or 3 months. 60 in under a year. You could get decent 1 groupable gear within 6 months. There is a 300% xp bonus in grps and stuff so grouping even with people leaching exp is a bonus to your exp overall. That slows a lot at 50. So that's the kind of time investment your looking into for 1 character. Maybe a full year for two (a melee alt to compete in velious).

I'm wondering about the veracity of casters in general- the Necro class specifically

Necros are amazing at pvE you could literally get one to 60 probably in a month-or-two. Their lifetaps aren't half bad in PvP and their pets can do some dmg and add more stuff for ppl to root and pell in group pvp situations. vs Like geared players and noobs engulfing darkness owns all. They have a semi decent FR debuff. FD is amazing in pvp. Because you can escape players who don't have it. You can splurt or Ebolt ppl and FD somewhere else. Once you start adding teammates, and groupmates, guildmates the necro play style gets more diverse and interesting, you can heal and twitch, and do a lot of things for other players, DMF is an excellent pvp spell. I imagine you can sometimes land poison/disease dots in end game scenarios as well. Especially with a shaman buddy hanging around helping. (I'm really bad at actual pvp tho, so maybe we need a necro vs shaman or necro vs shadowknight thread).

All caster classes and priests are pretty viable on red as 1st toons. Cleric may be rough for someone who isn't an expert cleric and willing to afk a lot.

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Come 60, you'll probably want to have a real melee alt for pvp, just incase you are faced with more 1v1 situations. But EQ pvp is imbalanced, rock paper scissors, and melees are VERY strong in velious. Not saying 100% immortal but a lot of people have really good gear and are just going to win no matter what unless you're outside and just taking pot shots at each other which will be a stalemate.

Necros are great in mass pvp. Necros are mediocre in group pvp. Necros are very randomly good/bad in 1v1 pvp depending on who they are up against and the gear, and expansion.

Think about if you want to make a warrior, ranger, or rogue alt, and participate much in the end game, otherwise it will mostly be just a pve experience. High lvl end game pvp encounters can take all day. So you won't be wanting to pvp and contest regularly if you are casual, but no reason you can't log in one day a week and see if Apex or Perdition are doing things.

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I'll P.S. this and say: RoZ is offering level 55 characters, though the game goes up to PoP now? and has aas (probably a worse grind than 1-60 veious here), and a LOT of other un-custom stuff. It's a good not-classic-custom server. You can sorta learn to pvp there, but be prepared for grinding aas, boxing etc. It won't be the same as the EQ you remember so much. I'm leaving this here because its the alternative. It's not "better" it's totally different. Population is really about the same on both boxes, and RoZ is run by some clever coders who are actively trying to make the game neat.