TMO/Ascension Merger... LOL!

[Ashkari]

I'm surprised you all aren't banned for thinking the word train, much less posting it in a public forum. Pretty sure if the GMs decide you know what a train is then you intend to do so any time it could possibly give you an advantage, and therefore will ban you.

[Skope]

Rais, it looks like he's the second to get any sort of body aggro besides zeelot, not to mention he's sitting in on someone else's raid. i think he tried to train but failed doing it, or he maybe was making sure he had good aggro on the golems + trak. i mean, he's the only other person besides zeelot to go that far out. Unless he was secretly pulling (by not really pulling at all?) i think it's hard to justify just wtf he was doing out there.

[Skope]

minus 3 tanks and the puller, nirron was ahead of 2 entire raid forces as a cleric.

[Rais]

You can see in the spell chat spam Nirron doesn't cast any spells. Nor do you see any spell effects from him.

Are you kidding me Eabon,Durison, and Carsomyr was closer to Trak than Nirron is. Matter of fact Carsomyr is so out there, he's sucking on Prot's nuts sack, and then runs back to the raid. Nirron thinks " Oh shit let me get out of here AFTER everything is pathing back down after Zeelot.

Do you people understand the mechanics of Agro, Pathing, and a fucked up pull that Zeelot did? It's easier to blame someone else for a failed attempt. Jesus watch the fucking video.

And if you think I'm a TR fan for defending them, you can forget that idea.

[Skope]

no, zeelot pulled the wrong way (or he could have pulled differently), but heebee was the second out to aggro followed by Nirron (i was mistaken, sue me). like i said, i think he *tried* to do something fishy but was beat by a poor pull and 1 anxious tank. still doesn't explain wtf he's doing out there. I'm as neutral as you are, Rais. i hate 'em all equally. it's still hard to justify wth he was doing that far up and running after the puller unless he was flat-out dumb or malicious. Frankly i think it's a combination of the two.

[Versus]

Originally Posted by Rais [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

OH and incase you all didn't know. If you agro shit in his room, and run over to the ledge. EVERYTHING will run down the main path and try and come up from near the bridge area. I should earn DKP from your 2 guilds for explaining how pathing works here. So maybe next time you won't train yourselves.

Of course we know. That's why we did it. It wasn't trained away to dismantle TR's raid force behind us, it was trained away so we didn't have to kill them and then get leapfrogged. Training ourselves after Trak was dead was simply a known byproduct and necessary evil. The important thing is Trak died, not that we had a rough CR after the fact.

As far as Nirron is concerned...Like someone stated above, he was in front of 95% of our raid, and very far away from TR's raid. He ran in a second after Zeelot pulled the Juggs away. Just because whoever was controlling Nirron mis-timed the train doesn't mean he didn't intend to.

[Rais]

Before you assume and make grasp at trying to lay the blame on TR. Watch your own fucking Youtube video. Matter of fact, its your own fucking Strat. I would personally like a new Forum title since I disprove bullshit from assholes on this server.

[Versus]

Originally Posted by Rais [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nirron thinks " Oh shit let me get out of here AFTER everything is pathing back down after Zeelot.

The straightest route "out of here" would be straight back. Not up onto the Jugg ledge and back into the water.

[M.Bison]

Originally Posted by Versus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Like someone stated above, he was in front of 95% of our raid, and very far away from TR's raid. He ran in a second after Zeelot pulled the Juggs away. Just because whoever was controlling Nirron mis-timed the train doesn't mean he didn't intend to.

Your idea of "very far away" is only like 5 steps with levitate.

Also this is clearly a violation of the p99 bylaws. Guilty of conspiracy to commit a train...

[Hobby]

# Entity Name Guild Name Level Class Engage Delay Disengage Length Group Damage Hate
1 Zeelot The Mystical Order 60 Shadow Knight 21:42:33 0 21:43:03 30 0 0 1
2 Carsomyr The Mystical Order 53 Paladin 21:42:40 7 21:43:32 52 0 396 1744
3 Durison Ascension 60 Warrior 21:42:44 11 21:42:49 5 4963 0 725
4 Eabon The Mystical Order 60 Warrior 21:42:52 19 21:43:05 13 4981 324 3467
5 Elethia The Mystical Order 57 Cleric 21:42:59 26 21:43:58 59 4981 0 523
6 Pescador The Mystical Order 60 Bard 21:42:59 26 21:43:58 59 4981 0 160
7 Relapsee Ascension 60 Cleric 21:43:00 27 21:43:47 47 4955 0 2188
8 Darkdeath's Pet (skel_pet_47_) (628)[1789] The Mystical Order 47 Warrior 21:43:02 29 21:43:58 56 0 850 761
9 Darkdeath The Mystical Order 60 Necromancer 21:43:02 29 21:43:25 23 0 720 779
10 Loly's Pet (SumEarthR14) (579)[1805] The Mystical Order 48 Warrior 21:43:06 33 21:43:58 52 4971 839 2304
11 Loly The Mystical Order 58 Magician 21:43:06 33 21:43:58 52 4971 900 1690
12 Jeremy's Pet (SpiritWolf237) (549)[1755] Ascension 39 Warrior 21:43:09 36 21:43:58 49 4961 249 674
13 Jeremy Ascension 60 Shaman 21:43:09 36 21:43:58 49 4961 0 141
14 Aoloen The Mystical Order 60 Monk 21:43:09 36 21:43:42 33 4955 1366 2024
15 Auelin The Mystical Order 60 Monk 21:43:09 36 21:43:20 11 4982 579 644
16 Geleana Ascension 60 Bard 21:43:09 36 21:43:58 49 4961 450 600
17 Warm Ascension 59 Paladin 21:43:10 37 21:43:58 48 4972 1068 1927
18 Flippie The Mystical Order 55 Monk 21:43:10 37 21:43:21 11 4961 432 127

The rule of thumb is - no harm, no foul. Nirron had about no involvement. Just because someone is around your raid doesnt mean its disrupting it, so stop petitioning it.



*this is not meant to stop the drama, only to answer a question....please, by all means, keep it going as there are no other interesting threads to read*

----btw im glad someone actually watched the video and knew what they were seeing----