2020 Post Election MEGAthread

[Trexller]

Originally Posted by imperiouskitten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well, that sounds nice. Do you like sparkling sunsets and pristine forests? And White ppl and classical music? If so sounds gr8 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.][You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Things like this:

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[Jibartik]

If you cant agree that Rittenhouse was a rioter that brought a gun to a riot and nothing more.

If you cant agree that trump bungled the virus and wearing masks and social distancing are indeed good for the economy.

If you cant agree that Biden is an incoherent man with no plan or idea how to achieve any goals whatsoever.

If you cant agree on those 3 things, you should not be lecturing anyone on being a far left or right extremist.

[imperiouskitten]

how would they even tax you for guns you already own? There's no record of most of the guns that exist. In the west coast anyway you can buy and sell guns freely to private partners without any written records.

Sounds like you chose to live somewhere pretty servile if you won't be able to just hide what you've got. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[imperiouskitten]

Originally Posted by Trexller [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Things like this:

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awesome I love that too and I look like that in a belly shirt (but redhead [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] )

[Trexller]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you cant agree that Rittenhouse was a rioter that brought a gun to a riot and nothing more.

If you cant agree that trump bungled the virus and wearing masks and social distancing are indeed good for the economy.

If you cant agree that Biden is an incoherent man with no plan or idea how to achieve any goals whatsoever.

If you cant agree on those 3 things, you should not be lecturing anyone on being a far left or right extremist.

Rittenhouse is a hero who attempted to selflessly guard private businesses when no one else would. Not the police, not the feds, and not even you.

What would ANYONE else have done differently than trump with regard to the virus? I mean, aside from the Lefty Commie draconian lockdowns, unprecedented quarantining of the healthy, and placing covid patients among the most immune compromised population?

But yeah Biden/Harris is the dem version of Bush/Cheney

[Baler]

Originally Posted by Trexller [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What would ANYONE else have done differently than trump with regard to the virus?

hindsight is 20 20 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[imperiouskitten]

Originally Posted by Trexller [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Rittenhouse is a hero who attempted to selflessly guard private businesses when no one else would. Not the police, not the feds, and not even you.

What would ANYONE else have done differently than trump with regard to the virus? I mean, aside from the draconian lockdowns, unprecedented quarantining of the healthy, and placing covid patients among the most immune compromised population?

But yeah Biden/Harris is the dem version of Bush/Cheney

I can give you a list of things I'd have done differently, for instance mandating the covering of produce at the supermarket and funding upgrades of air purification systems (since allegedly the air purification on airplanes makes them pretty darn safe). And that's not hindsight; I've been screaming at my TV all frickin year. I would quite literally have been much much better than Fauci at this. I tend to think Trump was willing to do whatever was called for, but nobody in our leadership structures stepped up at the critical time.

Under Hillary we would probably have had an early mask mandate, which would have improved things quite a bit. We would have had a second stimulus by now too. But I do think these are the only things that would be different, and we would have closed travel to China much later too. And, we'd also be on the ground in Syria so I dunno. I can't see being enthusiastic about any of our electoral options unless dumb. There's nothing insightful at all in the Biden covid plan. The only "accomplishment" of Trump is in the culture war, and now that he's saddled us with another Russiagate that will rot our brains even further I am pretty sad about his operations in that theatre too. Now both sets of people who identify with a "side" of our horrific politics are full-on conspiracy cults.

[Trexller]

Originally Posted by imperiouskitten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I can give you a list of things I'd have done differently, for instance mandating the covering of produce at the supermarket and funding upgrades of air purification systems (since allegedly the air purification on airplanes makes them pretty darn safe). And that's not hindsight; I've been screaming at my TV all frickin year.

Under Hillary we would probably have had an early mask mandate, which would have improved things quite a bit. But I do think that's the only thing that would be different, and we would have closed travel to China much later too. And, we'd also be on the ground in Syria so I dunno.

So, you would have done things which would result in feel-good-politics but in the real world have only the most minimal effect on virus transmission? This 99.7% survival rate virus?

100 years from now, we will know how we could have mitigated it better. Nobody has any ideas that are better than others, because nobody knows what they are doing, Not WHO not CDC not Fauci not Birx not Adhanom not trump not biden not big bird not you not me.


In 2020, 2021 and 2022 at the very least, the debate will continue to rage. At this early stage, nothing can be proved, and if you cannot prove it, You are Debating Philosophy, not hard science.

[Jibartik]

Who did this cat vote for? https://youtu.be/kCq_q_1F_OY

[imperiouskitten]

Originally Posted by Trexller [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So, you would have done things which would result in feel-good-politics but in the real world have only the most minimal effect on virus transmission? This 99.7% survival rate virus?

100 years from now, we will know how we could have mitigated it better. Nobody has any ideas that are better than others, because nobody knows what they are doing, Not WHO not CDC not Fauci not Birx not Adhanom not trump not biden not big bird not you not me.


In 2020, 2021 and 2022 at the very least, the debate will continue to rage. At this early stage, nothing can be proved, and if you cannot prove it, You are Debating Philosophy, not hard science.

Supermarkets are the primary vector of transmission location-wise, I have seen studied. I think it's pretty disingenuous to just throw out two very obvious means to mitigating transmission in those places and call it feel-good and pretend there is no way of knowing or testing until later. Contaminated food sitting open in the air in every supermarket store is an extremely obvious vector of transmission. Covering that produce is a very low-cost means to potentially saving many lives. Furthermore, there is nothing wrong with attempting a number of means of mitigating the spread of the virus and later discovering that some were less effective than others. What you advocate instead is to do nothing, which is the only thing "hard science" can prove definitively unhelpful. If we had gone out on a limb and actually done some things, we might have better options than sitting at home in lockdown doing nada.

I do actually have a better idea of what I am doing than some. For example, I knew that Fauci's early comments on masks doing nothing were falacious because I understood that viral particles tend to travel in water droplets which are much larger than a single viral particle. I understood this intuitively, without needing the data which later proved Fauci wrong. There are people who are better intuitive thinkers than others, and science is not merely trial and error but also educated guess.