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Old 11-20-2020, 01:24 PM
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I don't get how Trumptards make the same stupid points over and over again. It's like some of you are incapable of learning.

NOTHING can ELIMINATE the risk. That doesn't mean that wearing a mask serves no purpose. Most scenarios in life are not all or nothing.

You're basically saying every qualified expert on the planet is wrong and you know best thanks to your access to OAN and AM radio. Wear your fucking masks, Trumptards.
FM radio were i live, 2 stations actchuually

but i agree lol it's dumb black and white thinking - #noteverytrumptard tho

just a lot of people are messed up

the other end of the extreme is having a panic attack when the baggy your chinese food comes in touches the table
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Old 11-20-2020, 02:06 PM
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I don't get how Trumptards make the same stupid points over and over again. It's like some of you are incapable of learning.

NOTHING can ELIMINATE the risk. That doesn't mean that wearing a mask serves no purpose. Most scenarios in life are not all or nothing.

You're basically saying every qualified expert on the planet is wrong and you know best thanks to your access to OAN and AM radio. Wear your fucking masks, Trumptards.
Because we don't operate life like this bud. You don't, I don't, no one does. Should we pass a law that it's illegal to swim without a life jacket? Maybe ban people from being outside during thunderstorms?

People are responsible for personal decisions. If it's as valuable as you claim then they would have laws, like seatbelts. But the science isn't clear. How you don't get the idea that life is all about personal responsibility is shocking. Maybe not though since you probably look outside yourself for assistance on a daily basis.

Bottom line: Libs look to big daddy Gov for answers. Cons look to big daddy freedom for guidance.
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Old 11-20-2020, 02:08 PM
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You could totally put a FM radio receiver in a stwars helmet.
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Old 11-20-2020, 02:24 PM
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Bottom line: Libs look to big daddy Gov for answers. Cons look to big daddy freedom for guidance.
It's really the other way around, just politics are so screwed up nowadays that it's all a mess like everything else. Liberals--actual liberals, not communists--believe in free will and liberty and individualism. Conservatives are the folks who're as a rule more apt to follow government guidance and tradition for its own sake. Communists are their own special breed of vermin, faux-liberals who seldom practice what they preach and in actuality tend towards highly conservative behavior in most respects. Do the highly-regimented societies like North Korea or the former USSR look particularly "liberal" to anyone who has eyeballs?

Government-mandated "social distancing" is in flagrant violation of the Bill of Rights and should be opposed by all citizens for that reason alone. Tyrannical governments have long used fear and "for your safety!" arguments as a means of coercing populations into giving up their rights. It is not a new tactic.

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Old 11-20-2020, 02:29 PM
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Would you wear a mask if it was 40% effective in preventing covid-19?
it is 0% effective because covid19 bacteria is MICROSCOPIC and can live on surfaces for 30 days, which means all the stuff your buying in stores or online has bacteria all over it

only way to be truly safe is live on a farm with a well and produce all your own food and quarantine for a year, goodluck with that !
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Old 11-20-2020, 02:37 PM
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It's really the other way around, just politics are so screwed up nowadays that it's all a mess like everything else. Liberals--actual liberals, not communists--believe in free will and liberty and individualism. Conservatives are the folks who're as a rule more apt to follow government guidance and tradition for its own sake. Communists are their own special breed of vermin, faux-liberals who seldom practice what they preach and in actuality tend towards highly conservative behavior in most respects. Do the highly-regimented societies like North Korea or the former USSR look particularly "liberal" to anyone who has eyeballs?

Government-mandated "social distancing" is in flagrant violation of the Bill of Rights and should be opposed by all citizens for that reason alone. Tyrannical governments have long used fear and "for your safety!" arguments as a means of coercing populations into giving up their rights. It is not a new tactic.

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I'm not sure I really agree with your ideas here. Conservatism is based on small gov, Liberalism is based on big gov. I don't think using Facism or Communism to compare the sides is useful because Facism and Communism are quite similar. The Political spectrum is a ring, not a flat plane. Facism and Communism are touching at the top of that ring.

Anyways this book helped me understand the Left and the Right quite well, I suggest it to anyone who will listen.

The Righteous Mind

He has another great book The Coddling of the American Mind, great read for all parents.
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Old 11-20-2020, 02:46 PM
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It depends on how you're using the word, really. I do not necessarily link "liberal" with "big government." Anarchists were traditionally also regarded as extremist liberals, at least up until the topsy-turvy present. Modern paternal liberalism in the FDR style is big-government, to be sure, but that's not the only way. I use "liberal" as a frame of mind moreso than as a political position.

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Old 11-20-2020, 02:54 PM
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Are Soc Dems liberals?

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it is 0% effective because covid19 bacteria is MICROSCOPIC and can live on surfaces for 30 days, which means all the stuff your buying in stores or online has bacteria all over it

only way to be truly safe is live on a farm with a well and produce all your own food and quarantine for a year, goodluck with that !
It's a hypothetical m8. Try again!
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Old 11-20-2020, 04:47 PM
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It depends on how you're using the word, really. I do not necessarily link "liberal" with "big government." Anarchists were traditionally also regarded as extremist liberals, at least up until the topsy-turvy present. Modern paternal liberalism in the FDR style is big-government, to be sure, but that's not the only way. I use "liberal" as a frame of mind moreso than as a political position.

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I'm with you in that what I thought Liberals were when I was younger doesn't seem to be a school of thought that is practiced. I think the Liberal ideas that I had in my head when I was young seem like noble and valuable causes. It seems like most of those good ideas has been perverted and contorted to untenable positions for most adults who function in a society.

Example: Homosexuals should be allowed to marry to see the same tax benefits that heterosexuals do. Absolutely, nearly all educated and reasonable people believe this. What happened though is they felt the need to take over the term marriage which is a religious term. That's why people had issues with it. Now we're down the rabbit hole of boys and girls are the same and hormone therapy for 8 year olds is being discussed. There is a direct line from gay marriage being discussed and brought too far.
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