95% effective vaccine, what does that mean

[Topgunben]

By the way. I think the vaccine is probably a good idea if you are over the age of 70. That age group seems to be the largest at risk.

But for me as a 34 year old, or my kids that are all under 10 years old, no no no.

[magnetaress]

Definitely not for kids under 16 even scary to do it post puberty ish.

Sterility and vaccinations, antibiotics, poisons, go hand in hand my friends.

I'm not antivaxx either, if I was dumb enough to be a first responder or nurse I would get the vaccine just to do my job better and lower the risk for other people, despite the increased risk to myself.

****Note: none of this means I'm a good person that doesn't hate you, I am just pointing out the shit that should make sense.

[FatherSioux]

Originally Posted by feniin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What you guys keep labeling as far left is probably closer to center. Democrats and Republicans are pretty far to the right of center. You wouldn't even recognize leftist ideology in America.

You should know that you're quite wrong. Nearly all Western societies lean left of center.

Need examples? Sure!

Abortion is widely available in all Western Cultures.
Government assistance is widely available.

[Woke Locc]

Originally Posted by FatherSioux [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You should know that you're quite wrong. Nearly all Western societies lean left of center.

a dozen chattering apes playing tug of war with the overton window, forever

[magnetaress]

If I was _truly_free_, you all would be dead.

[Jibartik]

I'm really into the idea of, hard progressive socialism, because like, progress makes sense, and it still makes some amount of sense to me, but there are 2 things that I've learned in the last X years.

1. In the 1920s (much like those fun 2010 tech boom years) everyone was like "progress will never stop! The stock market will keep going up and up forever and we're going to all be rich from now on all you have to do is invest on margin!" and then reality set in.

I felt the 2010s were very similar, we really thought Facebook was going to change the world for the better, that apps and smart phones would increase our connectivity and our global consciousness and everything will keep growing and progressing forever because all we have to do is invest in tech companies and boot camps!

2. It has become clear to me that everything I thought would happen, would not have happened like startrek, but would end up identical to china. Yes very efficient, but not exactly the startrek I thought we'd be. Because we're not startrekians, were humans, and humans make good things bad.

[FatherSioux]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah ive been thinking climate science is a religion for people who have cut religion out of their lives and miss being part of an always right community.

I'm not saying man doesn't have an effect on climate, but I am saying that if you passionately believe in it in any way and also dont go to church, you should take a long look in the mirror and think about how many goal posts have been moved that you once argued were absolutely right.

Politics is quickly becoming a new religion, even evangelicals are creating a hybrid christen version of it.

I think its silly that people who consider themselves very intelligent think that religion is what makes man do bad things and not man.

It's awfully un ashiest to blame god for man's follies. But damned if they dont blame him first.

This series is very worth the time.

Biblical Series

[Danth]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1. In the 1920s (much like those fun 2010 tech boom years) everyone was like "progress will never stop! The stock market will keep going up and up forever and we're going to all be rich from now on all you have to do is invest on margin!" and then reality set in.

It's worse than that. Those same people who said that stuff--later during the height of the Depression, 1932-33, they were saying things like "If they want jobs let them go find some!" and "Let the okies starve they're worthless anyway!" Go read through thousands of pages of period newspaper on microfilm like I have if you don't believe me. "I've got mine, screw you!" is a mindset as old as humanity. It's still around now, to be sure. We as a species don't really have the instinct to give a crap about much beyond ourselves and immediate family/friends. At least we're better than felids in that sense.

Note that one of the foundations of "Star Trek"- style socialism is the elimination of scarcity of resources thanks to their magical replicators. That's the mcguffin that makes it work, and we don't have that today.

Danth

[Lizard1]

Originally Posted by Topgunben [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

By the way. I think the vaccine is probably a good idea if you are over the age of 70. That age group seems to be the largest at risk.

But for me as a 34 year old, or my kids that are all under 10 years old, no no no.

You are a nice guy , and i hope you dont get the bad strain of covid as i was sick for 4 months. Being sick with covid will be the scariest experience of your life.


As for your initial question, 95% of people who get vaccinated will have an immediate positive response for self made defense to the virus, so if infected they will immediately be ready to fight against it, instead of your body LEARNING to fight it while your symptoms get worse and worse.

Covid19 is a genetically created bacteria, and as a result certain people are either resistant or vulnerable based on their genetics.

Many people contract it and within 72 hours it depletes all the oxygen in their blood and they die. Nothing can stop this.

[magnetaress]

Vaccines zero percent effective against:

Blood Agents
The principal blood agents are hydrogen cyanide (AC; HCN) and cyanogen chloride (CK; NCCl). These agents are Schedule 3 toxic chemicals according to the CWC. Schedule 3A substances have legitimate, large-scale industrial uses; therefore, large stockpiles are likely to be available for repurposing as CWAs.

Cyanide is one of the least toxic of the lethal CWAs. The inhalational LCt50 values for AC and CK have been estimated to be 2,500–5,000 and 11,000 mg min/m3, respectively (Simeonova, 2004). The cyanide ion (CN−) is the toxic moiety, mediated primarily by its great affinity for the heme a3 moiety of cytochrome c-oxidase in mitochondria, a key component in oxidative respiration. This interaction blocks the last stage in the electron transfer chain, resulting in cellular hypoxia and a shift of aerobic to anaerobic cellular respiration, leading to cellular ATP depletion and lactic acidosis. Therefore, tissues with high metabolic demands, such as neurons and cardiac cells, are key targets for toxicity. At lethal doses, death occurs within 6–8 min (Sidell et al., 1997).

Exposure to the blood agents can have two distinct effects on the eye, depending on the route of exposure. The retina and optic nerve are principal symptomatic targets of acute systemic cyanide exposure, with mydriasis commonly occurring at sublethal cyanide exposure and vision failure developing at higher doses. This is due to the metabolic inhibition of highly active neurons secondary to vascular distribution of the CN− ion. The appearance of fixed and dilated pupils is common late in the toxidromic progression, but this is likely to result from the general loss of autonomic neuronal function rather than ocular-specific toxicity (Grant and Schuman, 1993).

Alternatively, topical administration of blood agents to the ocular surface results in local absorption and toxicity, primarily concentrated in anterior ocular tissues such as the conjunctiva and lacrimal glands. Thus, topical exposure to the blood agents elicits mild ocular symptoms, primarily characterized by lacrimation and conjunctival irritation. In animal studies, the administration of sodium cyanide (1.7–5.3 mg/kg/day) to the inferior conjunctival sacs of rabbits resulted in immediate conjunctival irritation and lacrimation (Ballantyne, 1983b). In a separate study, rabbits that were administered 0.9 mg/kg of hydrogen cyanide to the conjunctival sacs were reported to develop general keratitis (Ballantyne, 1983a). These two experiments involved the administration of lethal doses of cyanide in liquid form directly to the conjunctiva, which is likely to lead to the very rapid cytotoxicity of local nerves, blood vessels, and epithelial cells. Exposure to sublethal concentrations of cyanogen chloride vapor similarly caused intense conjunctival irritation, severe blepharospasm, and lacrimation.

Exposure Physiology
The cyanides, formerly known as “blood agents,” consist of hydrogen cyanide (NATO code designation AC, HCN: MW 27.04) and cyanogen chloride (CK, ClCN: MW 61.5). The common metabolic by-product is the toxic CN− anion, which is largely a systemic toxicant. Vapors from these agents are heavier than air and spread across the ground like phosgene and can pose a problem in low-lying, confined areas (Table 36.1). A mild exposure to these agents through the inhalation route can cause headache, loss of consciousness, ataxia, and confusion. Palpitations and respiratory tract irritation with labored breathing (dyspnea) can lead to hyperpnea in some cases. For exposures classified as severe, serious CNS effects may occur. These include coma, seizures, and mydriasis. Dysrhythmias, low blood pressure, and eventual life-threatening cardiac arrest may follow. The occurrence of pulmonary edema followed by respiratory insufficiency can be a late manifestation following a severe inhalation exposure episode. The toxic load of inhaled HCN can be enhanced through its effect on increased minute volume (Purser et al., 1984).

Animal studies have provided evidence of the tissue distribution of inhaled cyanide. These studies have indicated that the target organs are the lung and heart, followed by the brain; all highly perfused. For example, in the rat following an acute inhalation exposure to HCN, the highest concentrations were measured in the blood, brain, heart, and lung with very little in the liver (Ballantyne, 1994). The estimated human inhaled 50% lethal concentration of HCN is 2,500–5,000 mg×min/m3 and for cyanogen chloride, it is approximately 11,000 mg×min/m3. These data indicate that via the inhalation route, the cyanides are less toxic compared to their effects as systemic poisons (McNamara, 1976).

Betting CoVID 19 is a biological warfare form of said poison. And a lot of testing was done on 'dissemination' or effective spread among populations. Blood agents that linger, absolutely fucking hilariously lulz - no more anthropogenic global warming for at least 10 thousand years. The highly lethal strain being held back in leiu of scaring the piss out of the enemy elites and holding them hostage whilst collecting data and avoiding full scale economic collapse, which would have required their own slaves to be put down as they would have become excess without an overseas market.

1976 was when the results of many secret studies started becoming public, think about it for a minute and then go have a cigarrete.

Overall a pretty good beta test and threat to make the UN/NATO powers play ball during a point where they were weakened by political infighting in the US. -- so a low threat of retaliation.