95% effective vaccine, what does that mean

[imperiouskitten]

Originally Posted by Muchew [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think you're a bit misinformed about how this impacts young people. I'm 32 and previously would run half marathons, rock climb, and play ice hockey. I've been sick for 8 months and have had several moments where I wasn't sure if I would wake up the next morning. I can't walk to the end of the block and back without feeling like my heart is going to explode. While most young people don't die, the vast majority are not "recovered" and need serious medical support.

Originally Posted by Muchew [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Again, I think it is more widespread than you realize. I don't think anyone knows for sure what the numbers are, but there is a study from Italy following up on covid patients at 2 months post onset and only 13% of them were recovered. I've seen numbers anywhere between 10 and 90% are dealing with lingering symptoms.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFXr14xmuGw

What I do know, is I belong to a support group of Covid "Long Haulers" that has over 15,000 members. Most of them are age 30-50. And this is just 1 of many support groups. These people are not getting better. The latest research suggests it is likely the virus persists in certain areas of the body; the immune system isn't able to clear it completely.
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1...11.18.388819v1
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1...11.03.367391v1


But yeah, I agree it's a difficult situation. I would be more concerned about the economy though if we didn't waste trillions on trying to police the world. When that money could be spent on, I don't know, giving a universal income while we restrict businesses during a pandemic to benefit public health.

This is crazy shit, brother. Serious, very important question: have you received the COVID antibody therapy? Not vax, but antibody. This is the best option I would expect for knocking out resilient virus. Please let me know and more importantly, if you haven't had it, please work on getting it. Just go to the hospital and say "it's called, Regeneron". Looking forward to hearing back; your situation is very interesting.

Standing in solidarity where so many Americans won't.

[FatherSioux]

Originally Posted by douglas1999 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The (far) left is more and more resembling a secular religion. Admit to your white privilege (original sin). You can never be absolved of it, but we may forgive you if you at least admit to it. If you deny being racist, it merely confirms that you are racist. You must be actively ANTI-racist (agree with my every word or be cast out of the flock). Are you questioning any of our presuppositions? That's okay, we can forgive you, provided you are willing to be re-educated. Do not trespass against any of our ideological precepts, and you too can ascend the ranks.

Diversity is our strength, except by diversity we mean rigid ideological conformity. We want everyone to say the same things, we just want, like, some black guys and latinos or whatever to say them.

Right on.
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PS: You should really have an avatar...it makes it easier for people to keep track of your persona.

[feniin]

What you guys keep labeling as far left is probably closer to center. Democrats and Republicans are pretty far to the right of center. You wouldn't even recognize leftist ideology in America.

[Mead]

More cerebral discussions from my future patients

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[Bearsnowls]

I would compare this to a slightly more deadly flu. Sure it probably won't kill you, but most people (myself included) can't afford to be out sick for over a week. I had it and it was awful.

[magnetaress]

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[magnetaress]

I think we should just kill people. Less people - less chance to spread virus.

Most people are unnecessary anyway. The Chinese won the #s game of peasants long ago.

Lets speed along the golden path. All of this shit is retarded and you know it.

90% of u should die probably in a very clean merciful and efficient way to make way for the 10% that don't need you

[LazyHydras]

Originally Posted by Topgunben [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not trolling, but curious what 90% effectiveness means for a vaccine that is used to treat a virus with a survival rate of 99.9%

Not trying to be a hater, but how can this possibly be measured with any degree of accuracy when the tests themselves aren't even close to accurate?

90% efficacious in a lab setting. How effective they will be in a real world setting is different and it depends on. . . well. . . people actually receiving the vaccine.

[kjs86z]

Gonna sit back and see what happens to the sheep that willingly line up for this largely untested vaccine.

Not anti-vax, just weary of anything rushed in general.

[Topgunben]

Originally Posted by Muchew [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Knowing some people that were asymptomatic doesn't really show the big picture.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpPnwm9UGrM

But your singular experience does? My comment was more sarcastic in nature btw.