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Old 11-07-2020, 09:14 PM
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Obama's deportation policies were part of compromising with an obstructionist senate and nevertheless no one should like him for that either. But Trump also didn't get rid of the cages plus he also separated kids from parents.
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Old 11-07-2020, 09:21 PM
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Ya that was ice and cbp he just sat at the white house / maralago and hung out and tweeted

cool to blame him tho
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Old 11-07-2020, 09:38 PM
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"projected"
"probable"
"very possible"
"highly likely"
All those and more like that are always before "President Biden". May I ask where is the cold hard evidence that he won?
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Old 11-07-2020, 09:52 PM
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I personally don't derive much meaning in my life from politics, so no I don't really care that trump loses. Every criticism of him comes down to character attacks, he's a baby and a narcissist and a bad bad man. Never specific critiques of economic or foreign policy, which is basically all I care about with a president. There's more to life than who the president is.

I don't like biden primarily because I have no idea at all what he actually proposes to do- specifically. The entire platform is vague and happy-sounding, as if he assumes most people are idiots who are satisfied with answers like "let's help the working class!". Thanks, generic politician #456627. And like I said before, I really really don't like kamala harris. Even the mega-left stephen colbert was like uhhhh you seem sort of duplicitous when he interviewed her.
That is a pretty fair and balanced assessment guys. I agree. God only knows what silly democratic ideas Biden will try to implement.

Anyway if him and Harris is sworn in it'll be Harris's agenda and some bones thrown to the environmental movement. Who knows. It may not even be terrible. I'm really curious if they'll mention real reform for healthcare or just roll with a gutted ACA for 4 yrs then hand the reigns right back over to the Republicans and we just got this "boogeyman" cycle of Presidents-ys and then I die of old age.
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Old 11-07-2020, 10:20 PM
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This is a problem that I have had for a while but politics seems to bring it into focus every four years. Often I get quite concerned with things and I extrapolate and project the implications of them to be dramatic and far reaching. The reality is, that the number one, slam dunk driver for personal happiness is the decision I make in a day to day life.

My existing theory for why this occurs is that my job does not flex my cognitive muscles enough. So I'm left to try and flex and work them outside of that world. The unfortunate side effect of that is getting wrapped up in some polarizing discussions with no positive end. I'm starting a new job in a few weeks that I hope will allow me to utilize more of my big ass brain. I don't suspect it will flex it to the max but that's why I'm in school and hoping to find myself in a job that does take all of my flex power. Until then I'll be here dropping knowledge on the unwashed masses of p99 forums.

I really hope Trump doesn't drag this out with some malarkey though, that's not good for anyone.
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Old 11-07-2020, 10:24 PM
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That is a pretty fair and balanced assessment guys. I agree. God only knows what silly democratic ideas Biden will try to implement.

Anyway if him and Harris is sworn in it'll be Harris's agenda and some bones thrown to the environmental movement. Who knows. It may not even be terrible. I'm really curious if they'll mention real reform for healthcare or just roll with a gutted ACA for 4 yrs then hand the reigns right back over to the Republicans and we just got this "boogeyman" cycle of Presidents-ys and then I die of old age.
They ran on very little. There's really no imperative to achieve any legislative objectives. A federal mask order is about the only thing. Harris doesn't have an agenda of her own, either; she's a total conformist corporocrat. It will be whatever the deepstate decides.

I honestly have very little notion what legislative objectives will be undertaken. He's a black box. $15 minimum wage is the only thing on my radar, but even that Biden has written on his platform -- while never mentioning out loud.

Biden's loss is a pretty devastating defeat for progressives in my view. Pulling to the center "worked"!: he won!! I think a populist republican party will be the one to bring UBI. If they don't regress into Christian right shit and antitrans. It's a pretty sad election and I can't wait for a generation or two to die of old age after living full happy lives.
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Old 11-07-2020, 10:25 PM
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We dont have to pack the court if we remove the judicial branch #democraticsocialism

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Old 11-07-2020, 10:27 PM
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I should have listened to you guys from the start on this stuff.
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Old 11-07-2020, 10:29 PM
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...and we just got this "boogeyman" cycle of Presidents-ys and then I die of old age.
That's turning into an American tradition. My old man (1927-2008) was pretty consistent in saying that the only president he voted for who he actually liked was Truman. I feel the U.S. hasn't seen an actual good president since about Eisenhower--everything since has been mediocre or mixed at best, and many have been outright bad.

It's tempting to draw a parallel to the string of weak-to-incompetent emperors Rome suffered through during the middle years of the third century. If there's a silver lining it's that the empire did eventually recover to some degree, at least for a time.

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With respect to your picture Jibartik, I sincerely hope the Democrats are smart enough to let Trump walk away once the time comes (whether it's 2021 or 2025). Going after him would set an awful precedent and do much to destroy two and a half centuries of peaceful transfer of power in this country.

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Old 11-07-2020, 10:30 PM
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my hubby is a political scientist. think I should get into politics? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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