[Serious] Lets talk Top raiding guilds and their behavior

[Ripqozko]

Originally Posted by MarauderOHHYEAH [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

... I offered to run a bot.. does that count?

Maybe but bots are usually shit geared

[Psyborg]

Originally Posted by MarauderOHHYEAH [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I agree on common ground 100%.. ive read the proposals and I like AGs by far the best... are you talking about riots PoG proposal?

Specifically referring to POG and ToV server fallback rules.

[MarauderOHHYEAH]

I kinda agree with their PoG proposal... to claim PoG you should have your raid mobilized and going... it promotes socking by a large force but thats kinda PoG isnt it?

FTE lock outs promote small active sockers over anything imo... when you can have a group or two of active sockers get FTE and basically hold a mob till more log on your promoting the type of neckbeard behavior that has gotten the server to this point

[MarauderOHHYEAH]

But thats my opinion on it.. and opinions are like ass holes..etc etc etc

[Ripqozko]

Originally Posted by MarauderOHHYEAH [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I kinda agree with their PoG proposal... to claim PoG you should have your raid mobilized and going... it promotes socking by a large force but thats kinda PoG isnt it?

FTE lock outs promote small active sockers over anything imo... when you can have a group or two of active sockers get FTE and basically hold a mob till more log on your promoting the type of neckbeard behavior that has gotten the server to this point

Know how I can tell you weren’t here in 2017. Cause small guilds did great with lockouts. Main reason rustle was able to survive. We had 1-2 runners and that’s all ya need.

https://youtu.be/HITM6abtKVw

[MarauderOHHYEAH]

I wasn't here in 2017! Well I think I had just started.. I didn't hear about this place till 2016 I think.. ( edited cause I sounded like a hick )

[Ripqozko]

Originally Posted by MarauderOHHYEAH [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I wasn't here in 2017! Well I think I had just started.. I had never heard of this server till like 2016

Lockouts helped casual guilds more then anything .

[MarauderOHHYEAH]

People on the forums say that... people in game say different... I can only base my opinion on how the system sounds on paper... and on paper it favors those who poop in socks

[Psyborg]

Originally Posted by MarauderOHHYEAH [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I kinda agree with their PoG proposal... to claim PoG you should have your raid mobilized and going... it promotes socking by a large force but thats kinda PoG isnt it?

FTE lock outs promote small active sockers over anything imo... when you can have a group or two of active sockers get FTE and basically hold a mob till more log on your promoting the type of neckbeard behavior that has gotten the server to this point

Regarding lockouts, the problem here is that during non-quake situations you aren’t winning any ToV mobs without a sock force as it is. That pretty much leaves out Kittens already so not much changed there. During quakes though Kittens just needs to get an FTE on any mob and then they will have a specified time to kill that mob unfettered. During the last quake I believe it was Kittens that was engaged on Aary while FRAG were on Eashen. Eashen dies to us, Kittens wipes on Aary and then immediately loses it it because we need it out of the way to progress. With an FTE lockout Kittens would have had a full hour to kill Aary without fear of losing him. Kittens would have recovered from the wipe and killed him.

I don’t think FTE lockouts are perfect. I would prefer if we avoid them and just continue as we have been personally. However, they will reduce petitions because you won’t see two guilds trying to engage the same mob.

[Ripqozko]

Originally Posted by MarauderOHHYEAH [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People on the forums say that... people in game say different... I can only base my opinion on how the system sounds on paper... and on paper it favors those who poop in socks

Everything favors those that spend more time that's reality . But lockouts gave folks time to get there and uninterrupted while they took their shot. You would have to adjust for current rooted dragons but 3 hour lockout anyone could kill things. All it takes is someone on line few hours during windows no one says you have to sock 16 hours , rustle never did that and we got plenty.