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Originally Posted by reznor_
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You took my bait. So, here's my issue with Kyle:
Literally went to a riot zone, armed, to "quell rioting" as you put it. That's not his job. Not even remotely close. Some dude with a misguided view of patriotism. No one knows, he some dude and then "self-defense" kicked in when he shot the second two (the video that's been widely shared and we've all seen). Hopefully the jury does the right thing and convicts him as he should rightly be.
I fucking love guns. I own several. I believe firmly in the second amendment. I also happen to be a democrat and believe that people shouldn't be murdered in their apartments while they sleep, and believe that everyone should have access to healthcare and basic necessities (Note: some of you will call me a socialist for this -- I believe in capitalism, but I believe we should pay a bit more to take care of people who can't afford it, so go fuck yourself). However, I'm not willing to kill republicans or people I disagree with politically -- something the right can't really make a claim to.
Showing up in a city that you're driven to *by your mother* to "quell rioting", are you fucking kidding me? That's the defense? And that he's a patriotic American doing his job? Hopefully he gets skewered for this.
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I don't understand how you are a gun owner and don't know the history behind defending property. Did you not read the post prior about staying philosophically consistent for property defense? This is why we say "A democrat with a gun, is an idiot with a gun."
Let me ask you. Do you consider the Asian's during the LA riots that picked up guns and defended their property to be immoral and breaking the law? Do you consider the blacks during Black Wallstreet who attempted to pick up their guns to use show of force to dissuade people? Do you think people have that right to defend their community? I can already tell you I would make you look pretty stupid since you would have several contradictions going on there in philosophy, and your applied ethics.
The second question would be well then, what is your community that you have a right to defend? Well, it's different for everyone. So, the law is laid down, you have the right to show of force AKA open carry to defend anything YOU deem your community as long as you have a legal right to be there and are not the agitator. For Kyle, being a member of the community there, working there and even contributing community service there PRIOR to the incident shows he did consider it his community.
On the murdered in your sleep, I assume you are talking about Breonna Taylor and just shows how severely misinformed you are. Here is the case report for that:
https://www.yumpu.com/en/document/re...mary-redacted1
Read it.