Why did the Kael FTE rules change?

[kaizersoze]

Originally Posted by Detoxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You conceded after you tried to win the race and lost. You knew 19 seconds into a 95 second race you broke the rule. You gambled and still lost. If you won, you would have never conceded.

Or they arent going for the kill 1 concede 2 method.

[Zipity]

Originally Posted by Goodest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

These rules are put in place by the CSR staff we can not just GO detoxx style and say fuck your agreements. They are still working out fine details in the UN channel. Riot conceded it due to too many racers five riot members started running up, Freedom had three and AG had two. Freedom + AG won the mob due to no competition, FYI they drops the statue FTE on a riot member at the zone line.....

So Riot races, lost FTE waited for statue to get out of ice bridge, then conceded, then after conceding due to breaking rules had players hang out exactly where they know the mob always gets pulled too and got a new FTE message on the raid mob they conceded almost 3 minutes later??? Experienced raid leaders should have had you vacate the zone, no business being there after a concede especially at the kill spot which is at a zoneline(no excuse not to zone). How is this not a further penalty?

[kaizersoze]

Originally Posted by Zipity [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So Riot races, lost FTE waited for statue to get out of ice bridge, then conceded, then after conceding due to breaking rules had players hang out exactly where they know the mob always gets pulled too and got a new FTE message on the raid mob they conceded almost 3 minutes later??? Experienced raid leaders should have had you vacate the zone, no business being there after a concede especially at the kill spot which is at a zoneline(no excuse not to zone). How is this not a further penalty?

The FTE message on Zergi at the zoneline?

[Dman2701]

More rule changes encase you aren't in UN

Kael:
Kael: King Tormax & Statue (natural spawn only)
Run up from WL side where snow/dirt starts (old run up spot)
Sow max speed ( no crown of rile shadow step etc)
dmf/levitate required
Statue/AOW concessions linked
First 8 hours of window: announce in shout then race after 3 minutes
Last 8 hours of window: run on spawn
4 max runners
Max runners would be tied to AOW as well (can’t team up for AOW if your combined runners were more than 4)
Need to pull with your FTE
[4:37 PM]
Severilous:
EJ Sev
Footrace on spawn
Sow max speed (no crown of rile, shadow step, knockback etc)
Lev required
Startline FOB (old spot)
6 max (1 group) runners
Selo’s etc allowed after FTE
Pull to TT zone line.
Applies only to naturally spawning & not on quakes/server resets
[4:38 PM]
Gorenaire:
Race from druid portal
Bard speed allowed (no crown of rile, shadowstep, knockback etc)
Lev Required
6 max (1 group) runners
Startline Druid Portal
Pull towards Druid, Wizard Spires or Ruins

[Dman2701]

Remind me of when PS & CSG got fte on Koi and brought it to zoneline than dropped fte on it and some AM person got FTE. Than PS & CSG killed Koi and had to conceded 2 koi afterwards..

[Dman2701]

This was after AM already conceded Koi mind you...so...when should we expect your 2 conceded Statues?

[Mikebro]

Originally Posted by Mikebro [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why are the new raid rules not posted to the public... in the raid discussion forums? And we're all surprised there was confusion on the first race.

Stop the back channel conversations and make it public already.

[Goodest]

Originally Posted by Zipity [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So Riot races, lost FTE waited for statue to get out of ice bridge, then conceded, then after conceding due to breaking rules had players hang out exactly where they know the mob always gets pulled too and got a new FTE message on the raid mob they conceded almost 3 minutes later??? Experienced raid leaders should have had you vacate the zone, no business being there after a concede especially at the kill spot which is at a zoneline(no excuse not to zone). How is this not a further penalty?

nah Racers where told in voice to concede it when they where in arena they let an officer make the official ooc/shout. Sorry walllicker by the way freedom had one bard, one ranger and a rog run up. Yet AG had a ranger and a bard.... shouldn't you concede.... nah Fours said the rog wasnt racing shouldn't be there... so ag + freedom had 5 racers also... but we need to move on. on the random he left the line to run up there the same as what riot had both piled off before 4 way but we did the right thing once the confusion was cleared up.

[Molitoth]

Originally Posted by indiscriminate_hater [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Riot lost the first race - I fully expect them to whine this new rule out of existence

I still find this hilarious, anyone else?

_____ tells server they are casual scum and to "git gud".
Server Gets gud.
_____ loses and wants rules changed.
Rules changed.
_____ keeps losing and wants rules changed.
Rules changed back.
____ loses more and wants rules changed.
Rules changed.

[Baler]

Originally Posted by Damarous [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The biggest issue I have with this, as a previous member of Dawn Believers while we attempted to break into some of the higher end targets; we found there to be VERY little actual published information on the forums. This all happens on private discords that only guild leaders are invited to, and only if someone deems it necessary to invite you. Therefore it's only rules for people already attempting that content. There's no public location of these rules for people to try to abide by the rules while breaking into the higher end targets. We learned more from hearsay from other guilds than any other source

tl : dr- the only people you can blame for that are your guild leaders and officers.

Having personally spoken to much of the Dawn Believer Leaders, Leader & officers, I really can understand why y'all didnt break into high end velious content. Now don't get defensive, not everyone can walk the walk and talk the talk. But if you're just a member of DB who is jaded from the inside looking out. You dun fucked up man.

If your guild leader and high ranking officers are not making contact with staff about server issues or discrepancies. And a real practical solution is generated from that action. That guild will never be a high end raid guild on P99.

I talk shit about detoxx but he walks the walk and talks the talk. For that, I can respect.

Don't come into RNF and shit talk the big guilds if you're not with people who can swing.