Please check my math on Troll vs Ogre Shaman

[Snaggles]

Oh disregard that. I thought I read more FSI debate but was mistaken.

I went troll. The snare neck is really nice for those high hp runners.

[kjs86z]

To summarize 13 pages:

- Ogre if your focus is on soloing end game difficult targets.

- Troll if you're min/max but don't plan on doing the toughest stuff solo frequently (prefer grouping, raiding, etc).

- Barb if you want to level faster and/or look cool (polar bear master species IG and IRL).

- Iksar if you like the aesthetics and/or just want to start + RP in the same zone as your necro / monk duo / trio (pretty weak argument but hey you do you man).

[loramin]

Originally Posted by kjs86z [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

To summarize 13 pages:

- Ogre if your focus is on soloing end game difficult targets.

- Troll if you're min/max but don't plan on doing the toughest stuff solo frequently (prefer grouping, raiding, etc).

- Barb if you want to level faster and/or look cool (polar bear master species IG and IRL).

- Iksar if you like the aesthetics and/or just want to start + RP in the same zone as your necro / monk duo / trio (pretty weak argument but hey you do you man).

I'd summarize it more as PLAY WHAT SEEMS FUN TO YOU ... and if you're still having a hard time deciding, read the above [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Arvan]

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[loramin]

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Dang you all need to get laid [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Feh.

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(Already at home, but wanted to make the Clue reference.)

[DeathsSilkyMist]

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Dang you all need to get laid [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It is much easier to get laid than to understand the complex machinations of a 20+ year old Ogre sim[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Cen]

Only barbarians can be and wear polar bears so nothing else matters

[Baler]

Originally Posted by kjs86z [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

To summarize 13 pages:
Troll if you're min/max

Fixed that for you.

I was frequently doing the hardest solo content on my troll shaman.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Baler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Fixed that for you.

I was frequently doing the hardest solo content on my troll shaman.

All shaman races can do the same content once they get Torpor. No racial allows one race to do content the other races can't. This includes the snare neck with Trolls, and the AC benefits from Iksar.

Pre-Torpor regeneration is better. Post-Torpor Frontal Stun Immunity is better.

Neither help THAT much Post-Torpor. 8 HP regeneration is useless in short term mitigation, such as mitigating unslowed hits for 18 seconds. You would get a paltry 24 HP. In long fights, you will get one free Torpor's worth of healing at best, over the course of the entire fight.

Torpor nullifies regeneration benefits in-between fights. Saving 30 seconds maximum in between fights will not make a difference in most practical situations a Torpor Shaman will run in to. I am always ahead of re-spawn timers. This is without Fungi Tunic, Regrowth, and Troll regeneration. I am always able to meet buff demands in raids after a wipe.

Frontal Stun Immunity is not always used in a fight, and sometimes you get interrupted anyway, due to the secondary interrupt component on a bash, push, etc. FSI helps to reduce the percent chance of unlucky rolls. It is a noticeable difference, especially when you play characters with and without FSI. But it isn't a guarantee. You could certainly get unlucky anyway, and still die with FSI.

[loramin]

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