Poll: Reopen Teal (Digital Social Distancing)

[cd288]

Originally Posted by drackgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I personally don't care about what mannastone wants to reopen teal for. (first off list items are gone). I care about why I want to reopen teal. That is so I who am a father of 3 and husband. Can log on and not fight for camps(lucky for me I don't really have 2 on green bc I raid, and to me raiding over farming). But for nights I wanna level one of my alts. Sitting on list isn't fun.(SK/Monk/Warrior) Classes that yes can solo some, but do better in groups. I personally myself don't care about classic(fyi green is by far no where near classic, so arguments are stupid, if this was classic all you greenies would be on dial up, no discord, Sks would of just NOW gotten life taps, mages would still suck, Hate/solro wouldn't been same day etc etc). I care about my way of life. Heck I wish dev's would shrink windows from 16 hrs to half. People playing p99 are not 10-24 anymore. 99% of this playerbase is 35+, with familys.

So then why don’t you play the TLPs if that’s what you’re looking for? Why come to P99, knowing what it is and knowing the amount of content that exists pre-Kunark, and demand things change to accommodate you? You essentially want instances or pick zones while playing EQ, which the TLPs offer

[Furitor]

Yeah Mannastone/Doacyn has shown up in numerous Teal camps and just been an awful person. Not sure how Black Lotus keeps this dude around. Definitely not awesome and not a fan of OP at all.

HOWEVER -- this isn't what the thread is about. This thread is literally about the overpopulation of this server. So stop trying to divert attention away from the actual statistic.

It's not Classic to have Enchanters and Necros solo all the camps in Guk and preventing exp groups to form there. Players are also smarter now and less likely to chill in EC all day. If anything EC is UNDERpopulated while all the other zones are overpopulated as hell.

Tunnelquest isn't classic. Twitch auction streams aren't classic. Discord isn't classic. And yet all of those have caused people to go OUT of EC tunnel and not socialize.

Populations in classic might have been 2k but players were not as smart and everyone wasn't out camping everything.

I've had numerous guildies from Teal straight up quit the game until Kunark because of the merge. Whole guilds are gone. Imagine how many more people during this pandemic would be back if we had a Teal server.

Too bad it won't happen so whatever. We're just forumquesting at this point. Release Sky and Kunark earlier and get it over with. That's what they're probably going to do.

[MakkanB]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So then why don’t you play the TLPs if that’s what you’re looking for? Why come to P99, knowing what it is and knowing the amount of content that exists pre-Kunark, and demand things change to accommodate you? You essentially want instances or pick zones while playing EQ, which the TLPs offer

Don't TLP servers cost money? If they're free i'll check em out...

[phr0stbyt3]

Originally Posted by drackgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I personally don't care about what mannastone wants to reopen teal for. (first off list items are gone). I care about why I want to reopen teal. That is so I who am a father of 3 and husband. Can log on and not fight for camps(lucky for me I don't really have 2 on green bc I raid, and to me raiding over farming). But for nights I wanna level one of my alts. Sitting on list isn't fun.(SK/Monk/Warrior) Classes that yes can solo some, but do better in groups. I personally myself don't care about classic(fyi green is by far no where near classic, so arguments are stupid, if this was classic all you greenies would be on dial up, no discord, Sks would of just NOW gotten life taps, mages would still suck, Hate/solro wouldn't been same day etc etc). I care about my way of life. Heck I wish dev's would shrink windows from 16 hrs to half. People playing p99 are not 10-24 anymore. 99% of this playerbase is 35+, with familys.

34 here. Married. 2 kids. I can totally empathize with you in saying every minute I get to play is sacred. If I even hint at getting on EQ at night during "family time" I catch a scowl that would make Wuoshi envious. If I try to play two nights in a row, my faction is shot for the week: "You played for THREE hours yesterday. Seriously??"

I have to say that I am quite pleased with Green, and rather enjoy the large community that it has amassed. I would suggest your position doesn't have anything to do with your identity as a father in his 30's, and while I'm sure your motives are pure, you already told us you don't care about classic so I'm not sure why you're lobbying for another classic server in the first place. We can argue about the degree to which Green recreates the classic experience, but we can all agree that Blue is vastly more non-classic than Green at this point in time (both timeline and mechanics). You already have a level 60 there, so why not go back? Why Teal instead of Blue? All of the gripes you listed about Green are easily avoidable on Blue, plus it has the added advantage of being less classic AND you don't have to lobby the devs for another server. This should be a win-win..WIN for you, yes?

[cd288]

Originally Posted by Furitor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah Mannastone/Doacyn has shown up in numerous Teal camps and just been an awful person. Not sure how Black Lotus keeps this dude around. Definitely not awesome and not a fan of OP at all.

HOWEVER -- this isn't what the thread is about. This thread is literally about the overpopulation of this server. So stop trying to divert attention away from the actual statistic.

It's not Classic to have Enchanters and Necros solo all the camps in Guk and preventing exp groups to form there. Players are also smarter now and less likely to chill in EC all day. If anything EC is UNDERpopulated while all the other zones are overpopulated as hell.

Tunnelquest isn't classic. Twitch auction streams aren't classic. Discord isn't classic. And yet all of those have caused people to go OUT of EC tunnel and not socialize.

Populations in classic might have been 2k but players were not as smart and everyone wasn't out camping everything.

I've had numerous guildies from Teal straight up quit the game until Kunark because of the merge. Whole guilds are gone. Imagine how many more people during this pandemic would be back if we had a Teal server.

Too bad it won't happen so whatever. We're just forumquesting at this point. Release Sky and Kunark earlier and get it over with. That's what they're probably going to do.

I agree Kunark should be released earlier. I don’t agree with your statement that Classic wasn’t overcamped though. It definitely was. As someone who on my player character was a class that couldn’t solo effectively, I remember it very well. Especially from 40-50 it was so packed. And there were constant complaints from the player base about it until Kunark was released. And on my CSR character the stream of petitions due to player disputes As a side effect of the crowding was constant.

[Castle2.0]

Pre-nerf Red Wood Wands were also classic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You can't assume that EVERYONE on Green will come to the forums. Forum users and non forum users are different demographics POTENTIALLY with different thought patterns, so your confidence level is nowhere near 99%. If everyone on the server was presented with the mandatory poll upon login, you could possibly assume a number that high. You are not good at demographics.

This is the "You can't prove your point 100%, so the opposite must be true (which just so happens to be my opinion."

Sure, it's logical to assume people on forums will not be a 100% match with the server demographics. So, what? Are you making any positive claims about demographics you can back up with numbers?

Why is your assumption more likely than the opposite assumption? It's not. If every player were forced to vote on login, we might see the 72-28 hold, or the spread get even bigger.

It's logical to assume that both numbers would increase. This means there will be more interest in a Teal server than the current 455 players. You don't know that there are more or less pro-Teal players that haven't voted yet than anti-Teal.

What we know for sure so far: from one, non-stickied, non-official thread on one-sub forum on project1999.com there are 455 players who want Teal reopened, and hundreds of players who haven't haven't voted yet. Most people would conclude this is a big chunk of the playerbase worth considering.

My suggestion: Devs give a response with reasoning, or open up an official poll for players to vote on.

[drackgon]

@cd288 I am not demanding anything, first off. I only voted Yes, and stated my side of story. Devs/admins are RL people as well, and have RL stuff to do just like I do. I am just voting my side and showing my reasonings.

@phr0stbyt3. Greens only appeal to me is its progression, and its community. (yes community is same on blue.) Blue has 0 progression and TLP progression is a joke, just like WoW classic. Heres the content time gated but with the most up to date builds talents/skills. Making the progression boring and not fun. I don't have a lvl 60 on blue either[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] only like a lvl 41 warrior. So I should of worded it I dont care about how it was to be "classic" as in 1200-1500 people on server like people keep saying on this thread.

[Tuljin]

Remember in the 80s and/or the 90s when there was "that kid" (who in adult life is now "that guy") that would claim something ridiculous like Hulk Hogan was his uncle or that Command and Conquer: Tiberian Sun was finally released "only on the west coast" and they would just have a ridiculous retort to absolutely every single attempt you made to call them on their bullshit?

[magnetaress]

Originally Posted by Tuljin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Remember in the 80s and/or the 90s when there was "that kid" (who in adult life is now "that guy") that would claim something ridiculous like Hulk Hogan was his uncle or that Command and Conquer: Tiberian Sun was finally released "only on the west coast" and they would just have a ridiculous retort to absolutely every single attempt you made to call them on their bullshit?

*holds up a mirror, slays _a_gila_monster_hatchling_ in n ro, autoloots*

[Hornox123]

I vote yes