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Old 04-28-2020, 07:25 PM
Keebz Keebz is offline
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IF the aggro from the debuff on Obsidian Shard is really 550 points, as Sakuragi suggests in their guide, then Obsidian Shard in main hand is the way to go.
On Blue non-dmg proc hate was capped at 400, so assuming that is in place here obsidian shard would be a max of 430. Also, I'm also not sure if the -6 ac debuff actually does 400 hate, just at most 400 hate.

It's probably best to test on green for accuracy.
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Old 04-28-2020, 10:21 PM
treefiddey treefiddey is offline
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On Blue non-dmg proc hate was capped at 400, so assuming that is in place here obsidian shard would be a max of 430. Also, I'm also not sure if the -6 ac debuff actually does 400 hate, just at most 400 hate.

It's probably best to test on green for accuracy.
Thanks for the info, Keebz.

Do you know of a good way to test this? Seems like a wizard nuking is about the only way.

With the reduced proc to 430 max hate...Obsidian Shard primary / high dps secondary wins "on average", but just barely. However, I played for a few hours tonight and dang, those Obsidian shard procs are so rare when your DEX isn't maxed. I think I'm going dual Obsidian Shard, because even though on paper it might look worse, in practice it may be more reliable. I logged the fights tonight, I'll parse them in the morning.

The other thing that this calculation doesn't show is that once that Shard procs, the hate does seem substantial. In other words, if you had 2 warriors, one with Shard/Shard and another with Shard/high DPS - once the Shard/Shard warrior procs, it would take a long time for the Shard/DPS to catch up and take over. The mob would probably die by then.
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Old 04-29-2020, 04:27 AM
Guesty07 Guesty07 is offline
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Thanks for all the input thus far. It's been my experience so far that most druids or shaman or enchanters really dont mind casting root on every mob so I've been very thankful for that. The shard proc is great and wil 100% of the time pull agro back towards me if I dont already have it. But the question isnt only about when I'm tanking, what about when I'm not and just want to push dps out? Somebody asked what my gear is -

Obsidian bead hoop
+2 STA earing
Grotesque mask
Crafted helm
Collar of undead protection
Jagged band x2
Crested spaulders
Crafted gauntlets
Charred guardian cheatplate
Azure arms
Black iron girdle
Lizard scale cloak
Large bronze boots
Crafted greaves

107 dexterity
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