Project 1999

Go Back   Project 1999 > Green Community > Green Server Chat

View Poll Results: Reopen Teal?
Yes 662 72.27%
No 254 27.73%
Voters: 916. You may not vote on this poll

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #141  
Old 04-25-2020, 10:17 PM
Jamz Hopeslayer Jamz Hopeslayer is offline
Skeleton

Jamz Hopeslayer's Avatar

Join Date: Oct 2019
Posts: 19
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Castle2.0 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
~1,700 on tonight.

People say "get off the beaten path and try a new zone"

There are LESS than 50 non-city zones.

If everyone spread out evenly, that's 34 people per zone.
  • Are people evenly spread out in levels from 1-50? No. Top heavy.
  • Are zones that support various level ranges about equal? No. Bottom-mid heavy.
  • Are people really going to spread out any way? No.

1700 doesn't mean Teal 850 and Green 850 pop. When more space opens up, more people will start to play again. Maybe 1,000 and 1,000.

There isn't room for new players or returning players right now. There isn't enough for the people actually playing.
He ain't wrong.
  #142  
Old 04-26-2020, 01:53 AM
treefiddey treefiddey is offline
Scrawny Gnoll


Join Date: Nov 2017
Posts: 27
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Castle2.0 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
~1,700 on tonight.

People say "get off the beaten path and try a new zone"

There are LESS than 50 non-city zones.

If everyone spread out evenly, that's 34 people per zone.
  • Are people evenly spread out in levels from 1-50? No. Top heavy.
  • Are zones that support various level ranges about equal? No. Bottom-mid heavy.
  • Are people really going to spread out any way? No.

1700 doesn't mean Teal 850 and Green 850 pop. When more space opens up, more people will start to play again. Maybe 1,000 and 1,000.

There isn't room for new players or returning players right now. There isn't enough for the people actually playing.
Just putting this here - the server per-level pop distribution on Saturday Night:
[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
  #143  
Old 04-26-2020, 04:19 AM
kaev kaev is offline
Planar Protector


Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 1,909
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by treefiddey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Just putting this here - the server per-level pop distribution on Saturday Night:
...
Yes. We're approximately at the level distribution and peak population the oldest live servers reached about 2 months before Kunark, and those servers already had Hate & Sky. (There were some that had more pop than Green does, peaking at/near 2000 most every day.) There was much fussing and moaning about the situation then, until Kunark finally released. How many months 'til Kunark here?
  #144  
Old 04-26-2020, 05:57 AM
Jimjam Jimjam is offline
Planar Protector


Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 11,705
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by kaev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Yes. We're approximately at the level distribution and peak population the oldest live servers reached about 2 months before Kunark, and those servers already had Hate & Sky. (There were some that had more pop than Green does, peaking at/near 2000 most every day.) There was much fussing and moaning about the situation then, until Kunark finally released. How many months 'til Kunark here?
But in this case the complaints of having powered through all the content and having nothing left to do is self inflicted. We all knew we had to wait about a year before we’d have much meaningful content for 45+.
  #145  
Old 04-26-2020, 07:50 AM
ChooChoo Train ChooChoo Train is offline
Kobold


Join Date: Mar 2020
Posts: 186
Default

People log on lower level alts bc it’s impossible to play higher level toons though or just log off outright when it’s super crowded.
  #146  
Old 04-26-2020, 11:11 AM
magnetaress magnetaress is offline
Planar Protector

magnetaress's Avatar

Join Date: Feb 2020
Location: Inside of you.
Posts: 9,655
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ChooChoo Train [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
People log on lower level alts bc it’s impossible to play higher level toons though or just log off outright when it’s super crowded.
Thats pretty normal and how I got most of my groups as a perpetual reroll'n lowbie once velious had rolled around live, by that time there were a lot of people who 'knew the game' but didn't enjoy the rat race. So they came to orc 1 to RP rangers with others.

And this is prefect. It is exactly the environment EQ was meant to create. Eliminating this would just re-engage these people in behaviors they have no control over because it is in their natures.

*dons assless chaps cracks dom whip*
  #147  
Old 04-26-2020, 11:34 AM
Castle2.0 Castle2.0 is offline
Planar Protector

Castle2.0's Avatar

Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 2,438
Default

34% level 40-50s @ 1700 online = 578 characters

How many level 40-50s is that per zone that supports exp or desirable loot for someone 40-50?

Can check out https://wiki.project1999.com/Recomme...s_and_ZEM_List

Only ~20 zones where it lists 40-50 as exp. This includes 12 cities, some of which are not feasible or highly impractical to exp in (exp mobs next to level 60 GM mobs, no room to kite, lots of level 50+ roamers, etc.)

If you're realistic on zones: SolB, Lower Guk, Sol A, CT, Paw, Perma, OOT, Feerott, Oasis, Oggok, Grobb, East FP, 1 of the Neriaks, Kedge you got 14 zones

This means 42 level 40-50s per zone.
  • Which of the above zones can handle 42 level 40-50s? MAYBE Sol B, Lower Guk, Kedge
  • Which zones can't handle 42 level 40-50s? Oggok, Grobb, EFP, 1 of the neriaks, Paw, Perma, OOT, Feerott, Oasis, Sol A, CT. Also keep in mind the level 30-40s in some of these zones.
  • Can we just add all these extra people to SolB or Lower Guk? No

Caveat: Big raid guilds are socking dragons and you got some people camping in lower-mid level zones (camping HBC in MM), powerlevelling low levels, and sitting at list camps.

Even so, it's pretty clear Green is overpopulated. That's just looking at the higher end.

When Sol Ro drops and legacy camps are done, you'll have 40+ people levels 35-50 freed up to play in other camps/zones.

When we're already past a comfortable population, you'll really be able to feel 40+ additional committed level 35+ players filling up zones/camps.

EDIT: Didn't include LFay because it's a handful of brownie spawns 1-3 people will kill. Didn't include MM because it's a mid-level zone.
Last edited by Castle2.0; 04-26-2020 at 11:41 AM..
  #148  
Old 04-26-2020, 11:42 AM
cd288 cd288 is online now
Planar Protector


Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 4,135
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by kaev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Yes. We're approximately at the level distribution and peak population the oldest live servers reached about 2 months before Kunark, and those servers already had Hate & Sky. (There were some that had more pop than Green does, peaking at/near 2000 most every day.) There was much fussing and moaning about the situation then, until Kunark finally released. How many months 'til Kunark here?
Definitely not at the peak population of oldest live servers before Kunark. That’s not nearly correct.
  #149  
Old 04-26-2020, 07:10 PM
GnomeCaptain GnomeCaptain is offline
Sarnak


Join Date: Jun 2018
Posts: 329
Default

So Teal still hasn't been reopened?

Weird.
  #150  
Old 04-26-2020, 07:20 PM
magnetaress magnetaress is offline
Planar Protector

magnetaress's Avatar

Join Date: Feb 2020
Location: Inside of you.
Posts: 9,655
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by GnomeCaptain [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
So Teal still hasn't been reopened?

Weird.
You're welcome to open a new server.
Closed Thread


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:53 AM.


Everquest is a registered trademark of Daybreak Game Company LLC.
Project 1999 is not associated or affiliated in any way with Daybreak Game Company LLC.
Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.