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Old 04-25-2020, 05:34 AM
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I have both mage and cleric epics so I suppose it makes me qualified to compare them.

Mage epic allows to summon infinite amounts of disposable tanks with 4k hp that quad for 81, nuke and stun, and regen 5% of their HP / tick out of combat. That's 200 hp / tick regeneration rate. (Torpor is 300 / tick as a comparison).

Cleric epic allows to save mana on a spell the cleric can already cast.

One of these two epics is very powerful and game changing (and shall remain rare), while the other is not. Figuring out which is which is left as an exercice to the reader.
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Old 04-25-2020, 09:46 AM
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I have both mage and cleric epics so I suppose it makes me qualified to compare them.
This is the classic argument of people who have already obtained an item that is difficult. I got mine, and it should be difficult to obtain for you. Back in the day, it was the wizard epic that I heard should remain difficult because it allowed wizards with Manna Robes / Manastones / Mod Rods to regain mana faster using an unlimited rune to regain mana which was useful for raid content where wizard nukes landed better. /shrug

I did not create the bug thread to compare the size of our epics ... [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

However classic the argument is, it does not dispute the evidence that the the drop rate today is not classic for the era. Sony, made adjustments to address drop rates in era, and those drop rates should be mirrored on P99 to be a classic server.
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Old 04-25-2020, 09:57 AM
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I got mine, and it should be difficult to obtain for you.
In this particular case, this is incorrect. My mage epic is on Red. It wasn't hard to obtain at all, I haven't played the character in many years and basically don't give a rat's ass about it.

I also don't care very much about mages in general. I do, however, care about the integrity of P99 - and having hordes of epic mages running around is NOT good for the server's integrity.
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Old 04-25-2020, 12:20 PM
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In this particular case, this is incorrect. My mage epic is on Red. It wasn't hard to obtain at all, I haven't played the character in many years and basically don't give a rat's ass about it.

I also don't care very much about mages in general. I do, however, care about the integrity of P99 - and having hordes of epic mages running around is NOT good for the server's integrity.
Mr. retired red epic magician,

I did not say your epic was hard, only that you had one. If you truly care about the integrity of the server, then I would think you would see the point of having something that is rare and MQable being sold to undeserving Mages for massive amounts of platinum that can lead to RMT. Pringles makes the better argument for the health of the server by disabling MQ on epics because at least that would discourage people farming them.

If you really care about the integrity of a server that is meant to be classic, I would hope that you would want the drop rate to match what it was on EQLive.
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Old 07-16-2020, 04:06 PM
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I have both mage and cleric epics so I suppose it makes me qualified to compare them.

Mage epic allows to summon infinite amounts of disposable tanks with 4k hp that quad for 81, nuke and stun, and regen 5% of their HP / tick out of combat. That's 200 hp / tick regeneration rate. (Torpor is 300 / tick as a comparison).

Cleric epic allows to save mana on a spell the cleric can already cast.

One of these two epics is very powerful and game changing (and shall remain rare), while the other is not. Figuring out which is which is left as an exercice to the reader.
Yeah cos level 51 Clerics casting a level 56 spell isnt op lol. Perhaps you overlooked that!
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Old 07-19-2020, 07:11 PM
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So did the devs for p99 ever change this? Or do they not care hehe.
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Old 07-20-2020, 01:32 AM
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So did the devs for p99 ever change this? Or do they not care hehe.
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