Ruby BP /List Camp not being cleared.

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by Tenudil [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not necessarily, it may mean the first person can't necessarily solo it and doesn't want to lose his spot. I've seen some shady things done by people farther down the list especially when a melee character is ahead of them.

The /list system turns normal EQ rules and etiquette concerning camps on their heads. The staff took normal camp rules that we've been dealing with in one form or another or decades and turned /list camps into a "survival situation." Go figure many people turn on each other like starving, wild animals.

[Wallicker]

You want Ruby for your melee class? Make a solo class that can solo this camp(and also farm other camps/plat for you later)! Don’t want to make a solo class then make arrangements via friends or guild to have someone help you.

[Natewest1987]

Originally Posted by Rhambuk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

so someone joins the list at spot 9 and by the time they are at 2 the group as devolved into mostly melee and a few casters. no healers no cc. so they just fold? been there the entire time but meaningless, or oh theres a cleric in zone that sees they are struggling wait a little bit and bring in your own group now your #1.

the list system has been picked through over and over I think its pretty well settled on at this point

This is actually kind of a stupid argument because obviously that is the way it works in any other circumstance, and you know damn well that if you were that cleric you’d be praying they ate it.

[Natewest1987]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So someone is on a waiting list for an exp group at scryer in uguk, and by the time they get into the group the remaining members are unable to hold the camp down. So they just fold? Nah. Let's just give him free exp for hiding in a corner. Or better yet, let's tell a capable group that shows up and wants to claim scryer that they can't actually have it unless they first powerlevel the people who are there currently but unable to handle the camp on their own for a day or two.

Yeah. That'll be great. Both of those things are totally in keeping with classic mechanics AND the classic experience, right?!

Derp dee doo!!!

Beyond “classic” it’s literally not how any game is played. It’s a wacky system.

[Natewest1987]

Originally Posted by firesyde424 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As opposed to letting one person or a group of people monopolize the camp for weeks on end?

Isn’t this literally EXACTLY what is happening ?

[Atennu]

I think a good proposal to groups being unable to clear list camps is to code ALL list nameds with a * on their name, and their respective PH's to also have a * - Once these pop if they are not engaged within a generous 5 minutes then everyone on the current list should be penalized 30 minutes with removal of said list and unable to rejoin with that account for 30 minutes. This will encourage everyone at camp to actively pull the mob(s), and not feel safe with the mentality "Oh we'll just resume pulls when a high level joins us".

[Visual]

Should have been level 50 minimum for these camps

[turbosilk]

Ez fix. Shrink the radius of the list function so that you have to engage to list or stay on the list.

[Asteria]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The /list system turns normal EQ rules and etiquette concerning camps on their heads. The staff took normal camp rules that we've been dealing with in one form or another or decades and turned /list camps into a "survival situation." Go figure many people turn on each other like starving, wild animals.

Well, it's like a new mini-game within a 21yo predictable game fwiw! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Erati]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The /list system turns normal EQ rules and etiquette concerning camps on their heads. The staff took normal camp rules that we've been dealing with in one form or another or decades and turned /list camps into a "survival situation." Go figure many people turn on each other like starving, wild animals.

This is exactly what I said during the initial tests of the /lists

It takes what you expect to happen at an EQ item camp and turns it on its head becoming a game of last man standing.