Warrior VS monk/ranger DPS face tanking?

[Gatorsmash]

Who wins the DPS race face tanking warrior or monk/ranger?

Bunch of my friends are putting a static group together and this came up, I've never had a warrior so I'm on the fence on troll or halfling. I know ogre has the min-max stat pool but the regen or sneak-hide really caught my eye

Edit- and just to check, halfling warriors can't use sneak hide at the same time right? Only rogues?

[ineubis]

All halflings have basic hide/sneak. Only rogues can skill-up in it though.

Target mob, click hide until they con indifferent. Then click sneak until it says "You move as silent as a cat stalking its prey".

When moving while hidden and sneaking, it is extremely slow. You move at a slow walk. Just FYI.

[Sonderbeast]

Assuming you are intending to go with a leveling/grouping toon an average geared monk will out class a warrior in damage every time.

As long as its an iksar monk it will have enough sustain with mend/regen and AC mitigation to tank as well if not better than a warrior except for some named.

So enjoy your new iksar monk I guess is what I'm sayin'.

[Droxx]

Originally Posted by ineubis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

All halflings have basic hide/sneak. Only rogues can skill-up in it though.

Target mob, click hide until they con indifferent. Then click sneak until it says "You move as silent as a cat stalking its prey".

When moving while hidden and sneaking, it is extremely slow. You move at a slow walk. Just FYI.

They only stack for rogues.

[Gozuk]

Troll and Halfling are solid choices. Hard to argue with the raw stats and regen that a Troll has to offer BUT their sheer size is something to consider if you guys will be frequenting dungeons. If you have a Shaman in the group.. shouldn't be a big deal as they get the Shrink spell relatively early.

DPS wise... assuming things are pretty equal as far as weapons/haste goes.. typically it's going to be Monk>War>Ranger.

You're also correct in that Halfling Warrior (or any class outside of Rogue) cannot use hide/sneak in combination to get around. Hide can be used for invis/ivu and sneak can be used to be.... sneaky. Just gotta stay behind the mobs for the most part

[mattydef]

Originally Posted by Gozuk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Troll and Halfling are solid choices. Hard to argue with the raw stats and regen that a Troll has to offer BUT their sheer size is something to consider if you guys will be frequenting dungeons. If you have a Shaman in the group.. shouldn't be a big deal as they get the Shrink spell relatively early.

DPS wise... assuming things are pretty equal as far as weapons/haste goes.. typically it's going to be Monk>War>Ranger.

You're also correct in that Halfling Warrior (or any class outside of Rogue) cannot use hide/sneak in combination to get around. Hide can be used for invis/ivu and sneak can be used to be.... sneaky. Just gotta stay behind the mobs for the most part

[DMN]

Originally Posted by Gatorsmash [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Who wins the DPS race face tanking warrior or monk/ranger?

Bunch of my friends are putting a static group together and this came up, I've never had a warrior so I'm on the fence on troll or halfling. I know ogre has the min-max stat pool but the regen or sneak-hide really caught my eye

Edit- and just to check, halfling warriors can't use sneak hide at the same time right? Only rogues?

Are you talking about blue or the new servers?(it matter big time) And no, a halfling warrior cannot sneak and hide at the same time. You can only sneak, so you have to stay outside of about a 120% degree angle in front of the NPC.

[Gatorsmash]

Originally Posted by DMN [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Are you talking about blue or the new servers?(it matter big time) And no, a halfling warrior cannot sneak and hide at the same time. You can only sneak, so you have to stay outside of about a 120% degree angle in front of the NPC.

Starting new on green. I have a level 9 human monk now but was going to reroll warrior to tank mobs better with an actual healer, but since it's going to be only 4 of us wondered if the difference in dps would be noticeable aka my shadowknight dps (my sk is too high level currently) to us

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by DMN [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Are you talking about blue or the new servers?(it matter big time) And no, a halfling warrior cannot sneak and hide at the same time. You can only sneak, so you have to stay outside of about a 120% degree angle in front of the NPC.

Slight point of contention, halflings (except halfling rogues) (and rangers) can hide and sneak simultaneously, but can't move around with hide activated, even while sneaking, without breaking hide.

[kaizersoze]

If you root mobs, face tanking hardly matters really. But if you want snap agro, since warriors got wrecked in chardok 2.0 patch, Id say SK or monk personally.