Never played these classes, next choice?

[Adron]

Originally Posted by Kotopes [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Cleric is in fact way better soloer than wizard 1-50, especially if you stick to undead. They can wear plate, take hits and heal themselves, and bash mobs at lower levels between nukes.
Human Inny cleric is also a good alternative to DE, same benefits minus ultravision, but not KoS everywhere, and a few unique quests/items.

Shamans begin to shine in Kunark, and after massive platinum investment, in classic they are nothing special. Also solo is very slow and boring 1-34, and 34+ not that much better still. Now with JBB, epic and later Torpor is when they become solo gods.

Cleric is a 'way better soloer' than wizard 1-50? uh, have you ever played a wizard? I think i soloed 40-50 on a wiz without ever dipping below half health. at every level, against any blue mob you run into, your nukes are as mana efficient as a cleric's vs undead. Not to mention the efficiency in terms of time of larger nukes for larger amounts of mana. Log in, your choice camp is already camped. what does a cleric soloing do? A wiz ports to their 2nd choice, which again, can be any mob, not just undead, and goes to town. Maybe you never played a snare class? its leaps and bounds better than relying on root alone when soloing.
FYI, soloing with a class that can whip hill giant ass starting at 39 (wizard, not cleric) means you have oodles of cash to buy the things you cannot camp on your own soloing. And that plate you make sound like it helps you solo is like paper at some point. tanks rely on their passive defensive abilities to live, as any tank would tell you if you listened.
Cleric is likely a way more INTERESTING soloer. wiz can get so easy it bores you into doing stupid crap like standing up before your mana bar is full. the dangers of being so good, etc.

[DMN]

I think cleric is a better solo'r from 44+, at least in the vanilla time period. Especially if you went 25 cha at character creation with a decent cha race. And certainly if you got a manstone a dorf with max stamina at character creation. Come kunark though the cha cleric is going to shit all over the dorf, especially if they went inny for religion

[Kotopes]

Originally Posted by Adron [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Cleric is a 'way better soloer' than wizard 1-50? uh, have you ever played a wizard? I think i soloed 40-50 on a wiz without ever dipping below half health. at every level, against any blue mob you run into, your nukes are as mana efficient as a cleric's vs undead. Not to mention the efficiency in terms of time of larger nukes for larger amounts of mana. Log in, your choice camp is already camped. what does a cleric soloing do? A wiz ports to their 2nd choice, which again, can be any mob, not just undead, and goes to town. Maybe you never played a snare class? its leaps and bounds better than relying on root alone when soloing.
FYI, soloing with a class that can whip hill giant ass starting at 39 (wizard, not cleric) means you have oodles of cash to buy the things you cannot camp on your own soloing. And that plate you make sound like it helps you solo is like paper at some point. tanks rely on their passive defensive abilities to live, as any tank would tell you if you listened.
Cleric is likely a way more INTERESTING soloer. wiz can get so easy it bores you into doing stupid crap like standing up before your mana bar is full. the dangers of being so good, etc.

1-34 cleric is definitely way better, I did wizzy on blue with that free 40 damage nuke stick and geared up, it was still not that easy. 34+ you still need some gear to effectively quad kite.
Cleric is not just plate, its DA/DB, Lull, Memblur, hp+ac buffs among other things. Can solo well in dungeons that tend to have higher ZEM. Way easier groups when you have time for them too. Ports are cheap thanks to abundance of druids.

You greatly underestimate cleric's ability to solo 1-50, especially in Classic era, they are a decent solo class. However 51+ is when wizzy shines as a solo class. Clerics can struggle to 54 but it's a pain.

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by Adron [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Cleric is a 'way better soloer' than wizard 1-50? uh, have you ever played a wizard? I think i soloed 40-50 on a wiz without ever dipping below half health. at every level, against any blue mob you run into, your nukes are as mana efficient as a cleric's vs undead. Not to mention the efficiency in terms of time of larger nukes for larger amounts of mana. Log in, your choice camp is already camped. what does a cleric soloing do? A wiz ports to their 2nd choice, which again, can be any mob, not just undead, and goes to town. Maybe you never played a snare class? its leaps and bounds better than relying on root alone when soloing.
FYI, soloing with a class that can whip hill giant ass starting at 39 (wizard, not cleric) means you have oodles of cash to buy the things you cannot camp on your own soloing. And that plate you make sound like it helps you solo is like paper at some point. tanks rely on their passive defensive abilities to live, as any tank would tell you if you listened.
Cleric is likely a way more INTERESTING soloer. wiz can get so easy it bores you into doing stupid crap like standing up before your mana bar is full. the dangers of being so good, etc.

Ports and non-undead potential vs. half as likely to die, able to split camps the wizard wouldn't be able to, MORE efficient nukes if against undead because of the MR adjustment besides the raw damage:mana, able to rez if necessary, potential to do ridiculous stuff with a manastone at 39+.

You're off your rocker if you think a 39 wizard can "whip hill giant ass." You need like 10-12 minutes per hill giant, and that's being a bit optimistic.

[Gatorsmash]

Originally Posted by Kotopes [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1-34 cleric is definitely way better, I did wizzy on blue with that free 40 damage nuke stick and geared up, it was still not that easy. 34+ you still need some gear to effectively quad kite.
Cleric is not just plate, its DA/DB, Lull, Memblur, hp+ac buffs among other things. Can solo well in dungeons that tend to have higher ZEM. Way easier groups when you have time for them too. Ports are cheap thanks to abundance of druids.

You greatly underestimate cleric's ability to solo 1-50, especially in Classic era, they are a decent solo class. However 51+ is when wizzy shines as a solo class. Clerics can struggle to 54 but it's a pain.

Lol clerics are better solo'rs than wizard.

The retards on this forum, it's like YouTube comments come to life.

@op Troll Shaman is the way to go. And don't believe the idiots, It's one of the easier classes to solo in classic.

[ScottBerta]

Ogre Shaman

[Madbad]

Originally Posted by Gatorsmash [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lol clerics are better solo'rs than wizard.

The retards on this forum, it's like YouTube comments come to life.

@op Troll Shaman is the way to go. And don't believe the idiots, It's one of the easier classes to solo in classic.

Explain your sarcasm in the face of the fact that one of the first 50's on green was a solo cleric.

[Gatorsmash]

Originally Posted by Madbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Explain your sarcasm in the face of the fact that one of the first 50's on green was a solo cleric.

A class that has fucking less DPS than a Paladin UNLESS ITS vs. UNDEAD (let that sink in) is now a decent solo class and better than a quad'ing wizard.

The retards on this forum never disappoint. Lol

[annali]

Originally Posted by Gatorsmash [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A class that has fucking less DPS than a Paladin UNLESS ITS vs. UNDEAD (let that sink in) is now a decent solo class and better than a quad'ing wizard.

The retards on this forum never disappoint. Lol

Calm down Sandra, it’s a twenty year old emulator.

[gundumbwing]

Originally Posted by Gatorsmash [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A class that has fucking less DPS than a Paladin UNLESS ITS vs. UNDEAD (let that sink in) is now a decent solo class and better than a quad'ing wizard.

The retards on this forum never disappoint. Lol

Mayhaps your class knowledge extends as far as your platinum could carry you on blue?