Ogre/Troll advice

[Octopath]

Originally Posted by Cen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah ogres can't be wolfed in kaladim and the alternatives don't exist yet and even they are annoying to prime up

Are df belts worth it?

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by French Wizard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

sham probably represent 50% of the server and 40% being enchanters

if you go SK you will have the same crappy spells as your nec, be desirable for a group tank and unwanted at max level

Warrior is the best bet but will require a decent amount of gear to be viable which you can probably afford

Sham and ench are both like 9-15% depending on when you do the .count all. SK aren't "unwanted" at max level so much as "not necessary" (which like half of other the classes also are). Warriors are fine but not obviously a superior choice to the others just because you said they are.

[Cen]

Originally Posted by Octopath [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Are df belts worth it?

Yes, because finding wolf form in WFP is a lot easier now.

[Swish]

Originally Posted by Midoo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Avoid the Warrior class at all costs unless you're some sort of masochist.

Everquest's Warrior class is one of the least friendly and most boring ever. Anything the Warrior can tank, the Shadow Knight or the Paladin can tank much better. Their DPS is subpar unless they're twinked up the ass.

In Classic they're a completely crippled class that's almost worthless. You'll spend 100% of your time living in groups and even then you're be a paraplegic burden who's mediocre at everything and has 0 things to do other than auto attacking.

When Velious drops they get some abilities post-60 that will make them better raid tanks than Paladins or Shadow Knights but all the way 1-59 you will suffer. You should only ever be consider one if you're sure you're gonna neckbeard for years taking it to level 60, over-gearing it and only doing raids.

Shadow Knight is fun but the XP penalty is crippling and the playstyle too similar to Necromancer.

Shaman is really fun. You get to heal, you get the best melee buffs in the game, free SoW from level 9 and a dog pet at level 34. DoTs are similar to Necro but that's about it.

When Kunark/Velious hits and you're max level... as a SK/paladin your role is basically one of a trash tank on raiding, warriors end up with the glory of tanking gods ^^

[M.J.]

For the purpose of EXP quest turn ins to 9 I believe the earth ele illusion pot from Cazic Thule is in, so you can farm one of those on your necro if you're 34+ with your pet. It should be a single spawn that pats to the area just before the apes and the temple in the maze from what I remember. Double check the wiki to make sure, there may be a couple of other lizard pats but I don't remember having any issue camping the thing on my mage w/o snare.

I'd recommend porting your dude around and doing some faction if possible, 1-4 on red wine in neriak and muffins in WFP (RZ/Agnostic ogres/trolls should be able to) to boost your elf reps. Then move onto belts wherever you prefer to level 8/9. SK will be the only one with faction issues regardless of deity for you (like in HK) and if you worship CT/Inny on either an ogre or a troll for any class you'll be adding onto your hated status somewhere I'm sure. Though Ogre classes can all do RZ I believe, even SKs, so there may be some boosts from that somewhere, but I'm no faction expert.

I would recommend warrior or shadowknight if you're just looking for a character that plays a radically different role from necro and that every non-raid group needs - with warrior being a better time investment with less versatility if you plan to play through Kunark and Velious. If you're interested in spending time doing tradeskills however Ogre RZ worshipper is what I recommend, and not just because you'll have more skill ups while raising them due to higher wis - you'll have a platinum sink in the form of alchemy, blacksmithing will get you some plat when cultural drops with RZ ogre armor and those 19 dmg magic 2hb you can sell by the bag to people leveling pet classes, and you'll have FSI for Kunark when torpor is in game which means you can farm your own black sapphires for JC endlessly in Sebilis along with all the other enchanters and shamans that will be soloing there.

[Polycaster]

Originally Posted by French Wizard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

sham probably represent 50% of the server and 40% being enchanters

if you go SK you will have the same crappy spells as your nec, be desirable for a group tank and unwanted at max level

Warrior is the best bet but will require a decent amount of gear to be viable which you can probably afford

Warriors are shit tanks, stop spreading the false 'conventional wisdom' to sound like you know anything. I'd rather have a decently geared bard as MT than a warrior.

[Cen]

What is going on here with warrior hate. Warriors are the best tank always. Snap aggro isn't the main way to tank in Everquest its mitigation and root/blind

[Midoo]

I'd rather scratch my nuts with a cheese grater than play an untwinked warrior to level cap

[axisofebola]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When Kunark/Velious hits and you're max level... as a SK/paladin your role is basically one of a trash tank on raiding, warriors end up with the glory of tanking gods ^^

More like "warrior" 90% of the time.

[RipVanFish]

Originally Posted by Midoo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'd rather scratch my nuts with a cheese grater than play an untwinked warrior to level cap

Would you actually rather do that though