Impeaching President Trump

[Wonkie]

Originally Posted by Teppler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Would it mean anything to you if the debt quadrupled tomorrow?

The US wasn't always bankrupt. It happened along our history. We weren't always a giant pay pig for big liberal interests and bankers.

In your personal life what happens if you spend beyond your means to an excessive level, consistently?

how many is GDP compare to how many is spend

what number bigger?

[Teppler]

Originally Posted by Wonkie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

how many is GDP compare to how many is spend

what number bigger?

Our spending outpaces our wealth generation which is why we are in debt.

What happens when you spend beyond your means consistently?

[Wonkie]

Originally Posted by Teppler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Our spending outpaces our wealth generation which is why we are in debt.

What happens when you spend beyond your means consistently?

could you express that as a ratio for the years in question, T-brain?

spending:gdp

[Teppler]

Originally Posted by Wonkie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

could you express that as a ratio for the years in question, T-brain?

spending:gdp

I don't see the relevance.

I think I've proven spending has been liberal over the past 30 years.

The US wasn't always bankrupt and in debt. Spending wasn't always out of control. Our debt has near quadrupled in just a short amount of years. This shows a clear shift to increase spending.... another way of saying that is "liberal spending". It's become exponential even which makes the relationship quite clear that we've shifted to the left spending over the past 30 years.

[Wonkie]

Originally Posted by Teppler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't see the relevance.

https://youtu.be/GtkST5-ZFHw?t=28

[Teppler]

I know. I wish I had more patience to explain debt to a sub 90 IQer that thinks we are a wealthy country and not literally bankrupt and in trillions of dollars of debt. Bankruptcy and trillions in debt is conservative public spending and not liberal spending right wonkie?

[Wonkie]

Originally Posted by Teppler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I know. I wish I had more patience to explain debt to a sub 90 IQer that thinks we are a wealthy country and not literally bankrupt and in trillions of dollars of debt. Bankruptcy and trillions in debt is conservative public spending and not liberal spending right wonkie?

You can do a debt ratio too if you want, I'm versatile. It's not useful but we all have our kinks.

spending:gdp first plz

[Hoppkins_Wytchfinder]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...y_expenditures

I can see something which could probably be cut to reduce spending.

[feniin]

Originally Posted by Teppler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I know. I wish I had more patience to explain debt to a sub 90 IQer that thinks we are a wealthy country and not literally bankrupt and in trillions of dollars of debt. Bankruptcy and trillions in debt is conservative public spending and not liberal spending right wonkie?

Nice personal attacks. Next time try engaging rather than lashing out. If you can't answer his question, it's okay to admit it.

[Teppler]

Originally Posted by Hoppkins_Wytchfinder [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...y_expenditures

I can see something which could probably be cut to reduce spending.

Military spending isn’t our issue. We spend an incredible amount on welfare type programs. From 2001-2017 our debt rose from 5.8 to 20.2 trillion. Of that, 1.9 trillion is due to the war on terror. That leaves 12.5 trillion unaccounted for.

Where did the money go during this time?

Obama’s bail out to the banks amounted to 16.1 trillion dollars. Most of this is still owed to the banks to be paid out between now and 2050. 4.6 trillion was paid out, the rest goes on our balance sheet as debt.

Whining about military spending in the face of this is ludicrous.

Keep in mind that military spending is 50% of discretionary spending. Not 50% of our total budget. Discretionary spending only accounts for like 25% of our total budget. Almost all of our budget is ‘mandatory spending’ which is almost entirely welfare programs such as social security, snap, Medicare, Medicaid, unemployment etc....