Patch Notes, Sunday, May 29th, 2011

[Aadill]

Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Shouldn't be. It was well known via parsing back in the day that incremental increases in DEX were useless for crit % and proc rate until you got to the next "plateau"

My question, then, is it implemented that way? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Meaning was the scale implemented as a discrete mechanic or did they have an ever increasing percentage?

[Tenudil]

Kanras since you seem to be working on hate generated by melee attacks lately I was curious how much different the code on P1999 is from the standard emu code right now. I found a couple of threads that seem to have pretty good evidence/parses that show hate by regular melee attacks was simply (DB + base weapon damage) or DB + base weapon damage +1) for mainhand attacks and just base weapon damage or base weapon damage +1 for offhand attacks.

http://www.thesteelwarrior.org/forum...ead.php?t=3789
They use a shadownight spell with a known hate value and compare the number of swings to gain agro here. They don't actually come to the correct conclusion here because unknown to the parsers and hidden in a post half way through the thread the spell doesn't add hate when not in melee range. If you correct the number of casts of Terror of Terris with this information it comes very close to (DB + base weapon dmg) from above.


http://forums.station.sony.com/eq/po...opic_id=110464

Melee end up generating less hate per damage for the same reason that spell crits don't add hate. Hate is based on the base damage of the attack. Melee end up adding a massive amount of damage onto the base damage of the weapon with each hit, but the aggro they generate is based on that base weapon damage (and any base damage bonuses that apply).

Rashere

[kanras]

Originally Posted by Tenudil [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I found a couple of threads that seem to have pretty good evidence/parses that show hate by regular melee attacks was simply (DB + base weapon damage) or DB + base weapon damage +1) for mainhand attacks and just base weapon damage or base weapon damage +1 for offhand attacks.

That equation has been in place for quite some time now. I don't remember how generic emu code calculates hate.

Shouldn't be. It was well known via parsing back in the day that incremental increases in DEX were useless for crit % and proc rate until you got to the next "plateau"

It's linear right now, so every point of dex is equivalent to the next. If you have evidence otherwise, please make a bug thread and post it.

Seeing as those posts you are referring to came way after the 99/2000 period i don't see how they should be applied here. By that point gear and AA's were implemented that greatly affected the game mechanics differently aside from just expansions/patches.

I couldn't find any evidence of a proc rate nerf any time between classic and the posting of those parses. If you can, please post it.

[baalzy]

How does this hate generation relate to pets? Do they use the same formula?

Edit:

Also, what changed specifically about avoidance/mitigation? I'm a necromancer so I can understand why my mitigation wouldn't be much with only 559 AC but my avoidance seems to be non-existent as well. I'm getting hit about 90% of the time for 70-100% damage against greens in Droga at level 57, this is dramatically up from pre-patch. I find it hard to believe with 15-20 levels on the mobs that i should be hit this often.

[kanras]

Originally Posted by baalzy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also, what changed specifically about avoidance/mitigation?

PC mitigating NPC damage didn't change except for how a couple disciplines are handled.

Avoidance changed so your defense skill cap actually matters. Previously, a level 60 INT caster with capped defense (145) avoided ("miss" only) the same % of attacks as a level 60 warrior with capped defense (252). Now, they don't.

[YendorLootmonkey]

Originally Posted by kanras [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's linear right now, so every point of dex is equivalent to the next. If you have evidence otherwise, please make a bug thread and post it.

hehe, no thanks [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]