Enchanter charm isn't classic, we all know this

[Mushman]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We can talk about how OP Enchanters are or not all we want. The point is, they reflect what the class was on live. The goal of the server is to try and reflect how each class and mechanic was on live during the classic era. The point of the server is not to say "Wellllll achhhtually Enchanters were OP and they were never balanced but in my opinion they should have been so we should arbitrarily nerf them here because of that!"

If we want to make that the standard, then I guess we better open up like a million other things for peoples' personal opinions to be used to modify. For example, I think hybrids having snap aggro is cheesey and cheap and holding aggro as a tank should be more difficult, so nerf that please. What about Shamans and Canni; that's essentially a manastone-like ability and the devs stopped that from dropping and limited it to old world only, so Canni should either be removed or limited to old world only please. What about Rangers; AAs were implemented in later expansions to make them much better because the devs thought they were too weak from a balance perspective in the classic era, so add those changes to Rangers please since the standard is now what the devs did later on or what we think they would have done. What about Iksar regen and AC boost; back in the day there weren't nearly as many Iksars but sooo many people roll Iksar now to min/max for the relevant classes, so nerf Iksars please to create more of a "classic atmosphere."

It's just the dumbest argument I've seen on these forums in a long time and the only reason people are making it is because they're mad they can't find any legitimate evidence to try and force a change.

Noone is asking for a standard of altering the game. We're talking specifically about how charming as it is right now changes the whole landscape of the game into something that doesn't even resemble classic EQ. A dungeon split into enchanter/ enchanter support camp 1/2/3. It's a charm centric PvE environment in most places of value, which just is not classic. Did not happen = not classic.

If all of your hypothetical proposed nerfs were done, it wouldn't come close to changing the environment the way charmquest negatively affects the game.