Mages are up shit’s creek I guess

[Benanov]

Originally Posted by senna [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yall are playing mages on a busted timeline. When the problems were brought to light in the first link a few months after high level mages started using research, they were patched and fix immediately

That *is* the timeline. That's what happened. If you want to play a "classic" server that starts with the vision the devs were going for, that is not Green.

This is the equivalent of replaying an old console game.

I like the Final Fantasy Tactics series. I like Disgaea, etc.

I went back and played the original Final Fantasy Tactics on my PS2. The QoL improvements between FFT, FFTA, and FFTA2 are amazing. In the later two games you can undo a move (you cannot in FFT) - you know what classes are available to unlock later, whereas you have no idea in FFT that the class even exists until you unlock it. (FFTA2 has you unlock some via quests, but the slot for them is visible at game start, and you can always see which job can equip an item, even if you can't get that job yet).

You can't change equipment before a battle starts - once you start a battle, you pick your squad and that's it. No equipment changes, no seeing who you're fighting before you decide who you pick. The fog of war is brutal.

In later games, you see the entire battlefield, and what enemies you're fighting, and then you can completely reequip your toons as you see fit. Then the battle starts. Your out is basically to lose and reload a save or reset and reload or save - or trudge through with what you picked.

This is a read-only CD game, so there are no patches.

The initial adjustment back to the way of life of the old game is hard.

That's what Green is. You're playing the old game, warts and all, like we all did on live those first days. With vastly better computers and internet connections, 20 years of research and lore, and the game crashes a hell of a lot less. I'm playing FFT on a PS2, not the original PS hardware, so the load times are faster. and I have gamefaqs.

But it's still the old game.

[cd288]

Originally Posted by Benanov [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That *is* the timeline. That's what happened. If you want to play a "classic" server that starts with the vision the devs were going for, that is not Green.

The problem with this statement is that it actually is Green sometimes. The staff have made multiple changes to what is in place on Green launch based on things that the devs were going for that were fixed/patched later in the timeline. There's many things that were changed later in the timeline that, as of Green launch, are in the state they were following the later change. And this is because the staff decided that the changes the devs made back in the day were to fix an exploit, fix terrible design/balance issues, or otherwise bring things in line with what the devs' real vision for EQ was and therefore they should be reflected on Green launch rather than patched later.

It's selectively classic. I don't really care that it's selectively classic, because it's a private server and the staff can do what they want, but people need to stop making the argument you're trying to make when there are multiple ways that the server is quite literally not fully accurate to the timeline/what classic EQ was at launch.