Green server and "operating under legal permission"

[Deathrydar]

Originally Posted by BlackBellamy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, he is relying on a written opinion from me. I am an attorney and a former Superior Court judge and I consult on all legal matters regarding P1999 ("The Project"). I have sent Videri extensive documentation that allows him to make the claims he did. If you would like to have access to this documentation, please apply through the P99Legal link on the homepage.

Tell him, SteveDave!

[Haloren]

I'd be more worried about that place that serves STAYKE and LOYBSTA for a LEEMATED TOYME shutting down and there are no more bloomin' onions, veeshan help us all.

As with leveling in the game, no matter what happens just enjoy the ride. But, maybe offline games are more your thing, that way no one can shut you down!

[Spock2020]

If we think of everything that can happen we wouldn't be doing anything. Welcome to life lol.

[cd288]

Originally Posted by BlackBellamy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You wrote "shut down the server due to the copyright violation"
And then I wrote "how is copyright involved?"

I'm not interested in a broad discussion of IP. I'm specifically asking about your use of the term "copyright" and how its relevant to this project.

Ah gotcha. Sorry if I was unclear. Prior to the agreement being put into place between P99 and Daybreak, P99 had no legal right to use Daybreak's IP (i.e. the EverQuest name/brand and the game). At that time, technically Daybreak could have sued because they could argue that P99 was misappropriating their IP (i.e. copyright violation) and essentially stealing their customers away from Daybreak's product by using Daybreak's IP to provide EverQuest through Velious for free. The reason I brought that up was in the context of discussing the legal agreement and how I would not be surprised if there are some pretty favorable Daybreak terms in there because they had more leverage in the situation than P99 did.

Of course, there could be a number of arguments P99 could've made in defense had Daybreak sued them, but none of them are sure bets and that would've also been expensive to litigate.

[Dolalin]

I spent a few hundred £ on krono for Agnarr when it launched. Lots of p99 people went to Agnarr and probably did the same.

P99 isn't competition, it's a loss leader.

[fadetree]

calling all young doctors, thread needs moar opinion

[loramin]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

At that time, technically Daybreak could have sued because they could argue that P99 was misappropriating their IP (i.e. copyright violation) and essentially stealing their customers away from Daybreak's product by using Daybreak's IP to provide EverQuest through Velious for free.

Young lawyer, perhaps you could clarify for me: what specific copyrighted (not patented or trademarked or whatever) works does Project 1999 infringe on?

Bonus question: can you explain the difference between copyright and other forms of intellectual property (just in a "prove you get it" kind of way; not looking for a treatise)?

[Indicas]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Young lawyer, perhaps you could clarify for me: what specific copyrighted (not patented or trademarked or whatever) works does Project 1999 infringe on?

Bonus question: can you explain the difference between copyright and other forms of intellectual property (just in a "prove you get it" kind of way; not looking for a treatise)?

and you have to answer in the form of who is, or what is everytime

[Videri]

Originally Posted by pheerie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thanks for the blanket statement. I assume you are relying on P99 staff's word from an outdated agreement based on an entirely different server (blue) like everyone else? Or did you have facts to add?

Why would Project 1999 be illegal? Is someone profiting from someone else’s intellectual property?

[loramin]

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and you have to answer in the form of who is, or what is everytime

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