Project 1999

Go Back   Project 1999 > General Community > Rants and Flames

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #111  
Old 10-23-2019, 03:29 PM
Deathrydar Deathrydar is offline
Planar Protector


Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 1,673
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackBellamy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
No, he is relying on a written opinion from me. I am an attorney and a former Superior Court judge and I consult on all legal matters regarding P1999 ("The Project"). I have sent Videri extensive documentation that allows him to make the claims he did. If you would like to have access to this documentation, please apply through the P99Legal link on the homepage.
Tell him, SteveDave!
  #112  
Old 10-23-2019, 03:44 PM
Haloren Haloren is offline
Orc


Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: E'ci
Posts: 43
Default

I'd be more worried about that place that serves STAYKE and LOYBSTA for a LEEMATED TOYME shutting down and there are no more bloomin' onions, veeshan help us all.

As with leveling in the game, no matter what happens just enjoy the ride. But, maybe offline games are more your thing, that way no one can shut you down!
__________________
[Paladin] Haloren Holyblade (Human)
  #113  
Old 10-23-2019, 03:57 PM
Spock2020 Spock2020 is offline
Sarnak


Join Date: Sep 2019
Posts: 198
Default

If we think of everything that can happen we wouldn't be doing anything. Welcome to life lol.
  #114  
Old 10-23-2019, 03:57 PM
cd288 cd288 is offline
Planar Protector


Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 4,513
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackBellamy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
You wrote "shut down the server due to the copyright violation"
And then I wrote "how is copyright involved?"

I'm not interested in a broad discussion of IP. I'm specifically asking about your use of the term "copyright" and how its relevant to this project.
Ah gotcha. Sorry if I was unclear. Prior to the agreement being put into place between P99 and Daybreak, P99 had no legal right to use Daybreak's IP (i.e. the EverQuest name/brand and the game). At that time, technically Daybreak could have sued because they could argue that P99 was misappropriating their IP (i.e. copyright violation) and essentially stealing their customers away from Daybreak's product by using Daybreak's IP to provide EverQuest through Velious for free. The reason I brought that up was in the context of discussing the legal agreement and how I would not be surprised if there are some pretty favorable Daybreak terms in there because they had more leverage in the situation than P99 did.

Of course, there could be a number of arguments P99 could've made in defense had Daybreak sued them, but none of them are sure bets and that would've also been expensive to litigate.
  #115  
Old 10-23-2019, 04:32 PM
Dolalin Dolalin is offline
Planar Protector

Dolalin's Avatar

Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: UK
Posts: 2,565
Default

I spent a few hundred £ on krono for Agnarr when it launched. Lots of p99 people went to Agnarr and probably did the same.

P99 isn't competition, it's a loss leader.
  #116  
Old 10-23-2019, 04:37 PM
fadetree fadetree is offline
Planar Protector


Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 1,958
Default

calling all young doctors, thread needs moar opinion
__________________
The Ancient Ranger
Awake again.
  #117  
Old 10-23-2019, 04:43 PM
loramin loramin is offline
Planar Protector

loramin's Avatar

Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 10,517
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
At that time, technically Daybreak could have sued because they could argue that P99 was misappropriating their IP (i.e. copyright violation) and essentially stealing their customers away from Daybreak's product by using Daybreak's IP to provide EverQuest through Velious for free.
Young lawyer, perhaps you could clarify for me: what specific copyrighted (not patented or trademarked or whatever) works does Project 1999 infringe on?

Bonus question: can you explain the difference between copyright and other forms of intellectual property (just in a "prove you get it" kind of way; not looking for a treatise)?
__________________

Loramin Frostseer, Oracle of the Tribunal <Anonymous> and Fan of the "Where To Go For XP/For Treasure?" Guides
Anyone can improve the wiki! If you are new to the Blue or Green servers, you can improve the wiki to earn a "welcome package" of platinum and/or gear! Send me a forum message for details.
Last edited by loramin; 10-23-2019 at 04:46 PM..
  #118  
Old 10-23-2019, 04:57 PM
Indicas Indicas is offline
Aviak


Join Date: Oct 2019
Posts: 93
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Young lawyer, perhaps you could clarify for me: what specific copyrighted (not patented or trademarked or whatever) works does Project 1999 infringe on?

Bonus question: can you explain the difference between copyright and other forms of intellectual property (just in a "prove you get it" kind of way; not looking for a treatise)?
and you have to answer in the form of who is, or what is everytime
  #119  
Old 10-23-2019, 05:54 PM
Videri Videri is offline
Planar Protector

Videri's Avatar

Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 2,923
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by pheerie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Thanks for the blanket statement. I assume you are relying on P99 staff's word from an outdated agreement based on an entirely different server (blue) like everyone else? Or did you have facts to add?
Why would Project 1999 be illegal? Is someone profiting from someone else’s intellectual property?
  #120  
Old 10-23-2019, 05:59 PM
loramin loramin is offline
Planar Protector

loramin's Avatar

Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 10,517
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Indicas [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
and you have to answer in the form of who is, or what is everytime
[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
__________________

Loramin Frostseer, Oracle of the Tribunal <Anonymous> and Fan of the "Where To Go For XP/For Treasure?" Guides
Anyone can improve the wiki! If you are new to the Blue or Green servers, you can improve the wiki to earn a "welcome package" of platinum and/or gear! Send me a forum message for details.
Closed Thread


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:28 PM.


Everquest is a registered trademark of Daybreak Game Company LLC.
Project 1999 is not associated or affiliated in any way with Daybreak Game Company LLC.
Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.