Impeaching President Trump

[Horza]

Originally Posted by BallzDeep [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am but no one really debated that....Who has disagreed with that? My disagreement was with your comment that 10,000 people are MS-13 and that most are US citizens. There is no way to prove that. You are using it as a fact. It isn't.

The argument you interjected was about whether most of them legal or illegal immigrants, obviously they probably have more members now than they did a few years ago. Many studies and the Trump administration's own arrest statistics have shown that most gang-related criminals are citizens or legal immigrants and not illegal immigrants.

Originally Posted by BallzDeep [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You then stated that the original founders of MS-13 were US citizens. I asked for proof. You provided 0. You went off base now about comments I didn't say and are bringing up points that no one is arguing because you are daft and stupid. Quick hurry, change the subject again so no one can tell how ill prepared you are for any confrontation.

Are you familiar with the U.S. Constitution? From the Cheeto's mouth:

Though the effort was led by ICE, the focus was not exclusively on immigrants. Of the arrests, 933 were US citizens and 445 were foreign nationals, with 384 in the country illegally.

A March 2016 operation of similar size netted 1,133 individuals, of which 894 were U.S. citizens. This means that out of some 2,500 individuals caught in these two major operations, 1,800, or 70 percent, were U.S. Citizens.

[BallzDeep]

Originally Posted by Horza [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The argument you interjected was about whether most of them legal or illegal immigrants, obviously they probably have more members now than they did a few years ago. Many studies and the Trump administration's own arrest statistics have shown that most gang-related criminals are citizens or legal immigrants and not illegal immigrants.



Are you familiar with the U.S. Constitution? From the Cheeto's mouth:

Though the effort was led by ICE, the focus was not exclusively on immigrants. Of the arrests, 933 were US citizens and 445 were foreign nationals, with 384 in the country illegally.

A March 2016 operation of similar size netted 1,133 individuals, of which 894 were U.S. citizens. This means that out of some 2,500 individuals caught in these two major operations, 1,800, or 70 percent, were U.S. Citizens.

Lol your a fraud. You retitle websites to prove a point. The second article isn't titled that way.

https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/ic...argeting-gangs

Not hard to repost. This was the actual post from your second article link.

A five-week operation, dubbed Project Shadowfire, netted 1,133 arrests, including more than 900 transnational criminal gang members and others associated with transnational criminal activity, like drug trafficking, human smuggling and sex trafficking, murder and racketeering.

You need to learn to vet your own material. Context is everything. Just because someone says 1,100 US citizens were arrested....for what? Were they gang related? Were they smuggling immigrants? What was the charge? If I was close minded like you I was just read US citizen and assume Trump's an asshole.

[Horza]

Originally Posted by BallzDeep [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You need to learn to vet your own material. Context is everything. Just because someone says 1,100 US citizens were arrested....for what? Were they gang related? Were they smuggling immigrants? What was the charge? If I was close minded like you I was just read US citizen and assume Trump's an asshole.

The article says 1,100 individuals, of which 894 were U.S. citizens, were arrested, not 1,100 US citizens.

[BallzDeep]

Originally Posted by Horza [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The article says 1,100 individuals, of which 894 were U.S. citizens, were arrested.

"Of the 1,133 arrests, 915 were gang members and associates, 1,001 were charged with criminal offenses and 132 were arrested administratively for immigration violations."

That's like two lines down.

[Horza]

Originally Posted by BallzDeep [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"Of the 1,133 arrests, 915 were gang members and associates, 1,001 were charged with criminal offenses and 132 were arrested administratively for immigration violations."

That's like two lines down.

What does this have to do with their citizenship status?

[BallzDeep]

Originally Posted by Horza [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What does this have to do with their citizenship status?

You have to be a troll but at this point I'd say a SJW is better than someone trolling and be this into it and would all means at this be trolling themselves but...I'll bite.

You are using it as a negative for Trump. This is a good thing. We are deporting criminals and gang members. The article does not favor any of your points. Either does the MS-13 article.

On the scope of the arrests, we don't know what they were targeting. 20% were illegal immigrants. That would mean that 1 in 5 out of those gang members were here illegally. We are already actively deporting them internally. Now you need to vet them coming in externally. Once again before you go stupid and say Salvadorans. We are talking about gangs here. Gangs.

If you are trolling btw, I'd counter with if you are trying to drive someone unstable or get something out of that, I'd already say you're the unstable one and already lost.