Green should disallow GINA

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Originally Posted by Trollhide [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There's only one way to stop this egregious abuse of basic information:

Make the client TRULY classic: full-screen only, crashes when you alt-tab.

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[Baler]

That is true, they should force fullscreen.
And the only way to access the wiki is to print it out.

[Rooj]

What log parsers were there in 1999?

[Baler]

Originally Posted by Rooj [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What log parsers were there in 1999?

Text Parser is probably the keyword you're looking for. not log parser.

Text parsing is very old from the early days of computing.


voice communication is also classic.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Wilco_(software)
I use to use it, its an oldy.

[Rooj]

Everyone already knows voice chat existed back then.

However, I'd have to ask, what percentage of EQ's population do you think were using log parsers or voice chat back then?

It mostly doesn't matter because there's nothing that can be done about it. If it's not GINA it will be something else. Parsing is fine in itself, it's when you start adding audio triggers and visual aides and shit that sort of turns it into automation.

[Baler]

I suddenly understand why politics is shit.

I for one am progina if you want to be prochoice that's fine too. It doesn't affect me.

[Vexenu]

"It doesn't affect me when people use a third party program that gives them a massive gameplay advantage."

If other people using GINA doesn't affect you then why do you use it? If the program has no impact then what's the point? No one would use it. So yes, other people using it affects you. It makes the game easier for them. It allows them to clear content more safely and efficiently. It gives them greater access to pixels. You know this is the case, which is why you choose to use it also. Because it makes the game easier for you. Why are you even trying to deny this obvious fact?

If GINA was not extremely powerful then it would be rarely used and no one would care if it was banned.

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me alwayS full ScrEEN u filthy caSuaLs

[Mblake81]

Originally Posted by Rooj [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Everyone already knows voice chat existed back then.

However, I'd have to ask, what percentage of EQ's population do you think were using log parsers or voice chat back then?

It mostly doesn't matter because there's nothing that can be done about it. If it's not GINA it will be something else. Parsing is fine in itself, it's when you start adding audio triggers and visual aides and shit that sort of turns it into automation.

You weren't tabbing in and out of the game and with single core cpu the game took up your processing power. Some guys might've had a second computer to run a voice chat program but it wasn't the norm. My roommate eventually did get a second computer when he upgraded so he had two to run eq. No one in my guild used voice. Ring of Valor would take over /auc /shout and /ooc to do raids on Lady Vox.

Originally Posted by Baler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I suddenly understand why politics is shit.

I for one am progina if you want to be prochoice that's fine too. It doesn't affect me.

Sure, i see it as more of the steroid debate. Do you allow something that can possibly give an edge to some? if so should others opt to use it or not. You could argue it is performance-enchancing (that's the point) and some people are not able to hit home runs without aid.

I would vote remove it entirely. You know those you are playing with or against are using their own skill. When they win or do good its worth congratulating.

-my 2 cents.

[Baler]

Originally Posted by Vexenu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If GINA was not extremely powerful then it would be rarely used and no one would care if it was banned.

I like having the freedom to decide if I want to use gina or not. The problem with calling for things to be banned is when does it stop and who gets to decide what's worth a ban.

There is a bigger picture and it's not a 1 issue topic. You want gina banned. But do you want forced fullscreen? When will it end. Just let the people have freedom.

Remember this when they ban something you like, you stood up and asked for something someone else likes to be banned.

Originally Posted by Mblake81 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sure, i see it as more of the steroid debate. Do you allow something that can possibly give an edge to some? if so should others opt to use it or not. You could argue it is performance-enchancing (that's the point) and some people are not able to hit home runs without aid.

Steroids should be mandatory in professional sport.