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Old 10-15-2019, 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Lampolo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
The Velious UI makes me feel sick. I think a lot of people will have this eye strain issue. Please allow us to use something else. The brown tint helps but not much.
I don't understand where all of these people who apparently get vertigo from transparent windows are coming from. The easiest solution in game is to right click each window:
- Window > Background > Texture
- Window > Background > Tint Color > Select Color > Accept

Now you have solid colored backgrounds of whatever color you would like.
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My only criticism is that something changed in the inventory part of the ui between yesterday beta and the big ui change today. It's like all tinier. Text much smaller, exp bar smaller, can barely see it compared to before. The stone color buttons are fine, I can appreciate the sentiment of them, is my inventory problem possibly a resolution issue? Not sure but that drastically changed for me and actually hurts my eyes. New spellbook looks awesome, casting bar is a little disorienting because it's not attached to anything and had the old school look but still cool.
This did change during devleopment. Deezy is looking into increasing the font size back up by 1. Exp bar will be investigated as that is custom art.
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Yeah, I do think it's important that people can read the text even on a 4k monitor.

Although atm on my 1440p monitor, playing in a window that takes up about 75% of my screen, I can still read the text. I do think it's important that the game can be played on modern systems though, even if supporting a larger resolution and text size isn't classic. I do know some people do own 4k monitors (aka 2160p).
EverQuest UIs by default do not support large sized monitors. None of the UI components scale in the EverQuest UI system. The only way to "support" large resolution displays is to make the UI components extremely large. Which would ACTUALLY make smaller resolutions completely unusable. So in order to support EVERYONE it makes much more sense to keep the resolutions as is.
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I really like the new ui. The only criticism I’d offer is the mouse cursor can blend in at times and the font size seems smaller on the inventory page. Too small, for me.
We will be looking into increasing the size of the font by 1 (where it was on old version of veliousUI).
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Why aren't we using this!?

https://www.eqinterface.com/download...fo.php?id=4726

This super duper classic skin already exists! NOTE: I still love and appreciate all the hard work being done, but using an out of era UI feels....odd?
It is not really super classic; it is very much a hybrid like ours is. It also doesn't take into account the viewport properly and would require a lot of work on the end user's part to set up the viewport to get anything resembling a classic experience. Also players (including myself) often used the F10 full screen option. The Velious UI just took the missing components from the Stone UI and made them available on the F10 fullscreen to be honest. So the Velious UI is just basically the complete version of the F10 Fullscreen UI.
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Is there a way to change the transparent background of the entire UI at one stroke, or is the only way to change all the individual windows manually? If not, can we have the default be solid black (for ease of reading/seeing) and people can then go in and make what they want transparent if they want to?
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So your telling me they made it an option to play with a quarter of the viewable area or all of it? What kind of sadistic crazy person would do that. I played from day one until early Kunark playing with a quarter of the viewable area because I didn’t know to press F10?
See omgmo response quoted below.

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You were viewing the same amount of the game world regardless of which UI. One was just viewported (shrink the game world so that there is black bars around, not chop off the viewable gameworld area), and UI filled in the gaps. What you saw was a smaller version of the exact same thing, except your UI was to the sides instead of the middle of the game world obstructing your view.
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Clicking Forage with an item on your cursor results in

"Forage Error: Cursor not empty."

in chat and consumes the forage cooldown
I don't believe this has anything to do with the UI. This sounds like a regular bug (or maybe working as intended?). The error message you got sounds very deliberate and makes it seem like not a bug.
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Old 10-15-2019, 04:13 PM
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Clicking Forage with an item on your cursor results in

"Forage Error: Cursor not empty."

in chat and consumes the forage cooldown
Sounds like you went to forage and the game did a check to see if your cursor could handle the newly foraged item, and it couldn't because you already have something on the cursor.

Hence: The cursor does not = empty.
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Old 10-15-2019, 04:44 PM
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I don't understand where all of these people who apparently get vertigo from transparent windows are coming from. The easiest solution in game is to right click each window:
- Window > Background > Texture
- Window > Background > Tint Color > Select Color > Accept
I understand where he's coming from because I felt the same way at first. In ten years of playing P99 I had never needed that option and hence didn't know it was there or how it worked until I read it on the forum. Now that I know how to adjust things it's only a mild annoyance (got to do it for a bunch of windows, one-by-one) rather than a crippling problem.

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Old 10-15-2019, 05:15 PM
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How about instead of acting like a douche bag you make a post with constructive criticism and not blast other people because you run some ridiculously higher resolution that's over 6 times higher than the common resolution in use in Classic EQ.

Oh, so you are name-calling huh??? Well if that is the case get ready for ( name-calling armageddon) Jack-ass or do you like ass-hat instead? Maybe pencil-neck geek. I could go on and on and on if you like. Maybe you should try an apologie


Oh BTW 1920X1080 is a common Resolution The Velious UI didn't come out until the Velious Era Dum-Dum so there is no way it is even close to classic. This UI is I hope the link works this time ( https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/a...est-jpg.49495/)


Well that is enoughtjumping down your thought for one post. Until next time.
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Old 10-15-2019, 05:24 PM
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Here is a screenshot with a modified date of 7/20/1999.

This UI functionality was available day 1 of release.

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Old 10-15-2019, 05:43 PM
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Hey guys! I have a really good idea. Lets impose something that's not classic on everyone because we must adhere to classic... When anyone complains we will make fun of them.

Makes sense right?
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Old 10-15-2019, 05:51 PM
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Sounds like you went to forage and the game did a check to see if your cursor could handle the newly foraged item, and it couldn't because you already have something on the cursor.

Hence: The cursor does not = empty.
Thanks, I arrived at that conclusion on my own. My point was, that's not the type of error message formatting that's ever been displayed to EQ users, nor is it the proper behavior of forage with a full cursor - it should put the foraged item on your cursor behind the existing item. I did incorrectly post it in the UI bugs thread instead of general bugs, though.
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Old 10-15-2019, 06:19 PM
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Oh BTW 1920X1080 is a common Resolution The Velious UI didn't come out until the Velious Era Dum-Dum so there is no way it is even close to classic. This UI is I hope the link works this time ( https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/a...est-jpg.49495/)
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Here is a screenshot with a modified date of 7/20/1999.

This UI functionality was available day 1 of release.

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BTW, Rogean has very little to do with the creation and changes made to this UI. If you want to target your vitriol towards somebody, target it at me.

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Who's Bright Idea as it to use the worst UI ever conceived? Whoever it is I am calling you out for it. I can't read any text except the red text and I can not even see my Hitpoints available. Not everyone has perfect eyesight and the Velious UIs make the game unplayable ( Thank you very much) NOT. The original UI would be preferable to the Velious UI. even the default is better.
It was my idea to change the text size. When I investigated the screenshots I found the classic text size is smaller than the current default UI on blue. However, I will be adjusting the size again in a coming beta patch despite it not being classic.

P.S. Yes, you're acting like a douche bag. Please stop.
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Old 10-15-2019, 06:33 PM
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1920x1080 is certainly not a common resolution back in the day, not during EQ and those CRT monitors anyways, maybe there was some really high end CRTs back then but it was definitely not common.
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Old 10-15-2019, 06:34 PM
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It was my idea to change the text size. When I investigated the screenshots I found the classic text size is smaller than the current default UI on blue. However, I will be adjusting the size again in a coming beta patch despite it not being classic.
Thank you - I appreciate the text revert for my eyes. I understand it's not classic and very much appreciate it !
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