Camp Jackers- Emil

[yaaaflow]

Originally Posted by Finawin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ohnoz, fanbois might make fun of you on the internet! Oh the horror!

If you're harboring doucherags like Magicflow in your guild, people are going to out them. Doesn't mean anything to IB.

Otherwise I think everyone in IB has been cool I've come across, and that's quite a bit over the months.

Hahaha Finawin loves to take shots at me on the forums, but he never actually wants to discuss what I did that was SO wrong. Oh Finawin, please never change <3

[guineapig]

Last night somebody tried to tell me that the ground level of KFC was camped and that I would have to solo mobs up in the trees. I think at the time there were probably like 7 spawns roaming around...

I just ignored them and kept pulling my single mob every 2 minutes and nobody got hurt. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Pikle]

haha hasbinbad, I still remember your first post to me on these forums (WHO THE FUCK IS THIS GUY!?)

Well now you know who I am and you read my post, I like Emil, I like IB, haven't had a problem with the guild as a whole (honestly you guys have several old GC people who I'm good friends with). But I do like to joke a lot, sorry I threw a few jabs on here and you got mad and I got you going. I'm pretty sure if you knew me at all you would not have a problem with me. But of course I think you come on here looking for more confrontations.

I didn't know Emil had someone else with him, of course in my post I said if he did it changed the whole situation. Obviously with a lower lvl with him, he would almost have to kill the mobs in the way. I've had a few issues with a few IB members, but every guild will have their misfits and aholes.

I don't really like dragging this persons name through the mud any more, I felt we did that enough after the whole manastone situation. But that's one big example. But AN IB MEMBER came down to our EE camp and started telling us pretty much after the server reset IB was taking the camp from us. We had at least 5 people standing at our camp and that IB member not only sat in agro range of our mob and got hit but started messing with us. Then shouted to the whole zone to come to EE because it was a free for all. When the server came back up, I engaged OUR mob first and killed it, got the xp and everything. I even got CONGRATS from IB members. Then immediately a GM ruled in the favor or the IB member. That GM never talked to me personally before the ruling or asked any questions to me. From an outsiders point of view, that's simple bias. That player was going on the I was there first rule, I get it, stake your claim, which the GM ruled they were in the zone first. (Of course I was told specifically that you can't just claim something like that as we did with FG's a few times and then lost them) After arguing for a while and I had to call my guild to come back outside OUR camp or we would get banned... We finally got our camp back obviously.

NOW that you have 1 example, I will tell you that I get a few tells at a week about some IB member taking mobs or ksing my guildies (of course this isn't just IB members, it happens with all guilds, hell even our own). I understand the powerful will always walk all over the weak, it's part of this world we live in. Even our Co-Leader Tygerwoody had a situation where someone from IB tried to push him out of his camp because he was power lvling someone, this happens a lot if you are surprised by this.

I honestly have no problem with IB, you guys are the best raid guild on the server, I have had a lot of civil and good conversations with the leadership and hope that it continues. But if you want to treat me like this I'm not going to be very nice any more. Fanatics create the rebellious and you my friend are making more enemies by the way you treat people. Now I'm going to try and stop responding not because you think I failed or lost, but because it's simply not worth it.

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by Pikle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

haha hasbinbad, I still remember your first post to me on these forums (WHO THE FUCK IS THIS GUY!?)

Well now you know who I am and you read my post, I like Emil, I like IB, haven't had a problem with the guild as a whole (honestly you guys have several old GC people who I'm good friends with). But I do like to joke a lot, sorry I threw a few jabs on here and you got mad and I got you going. I'm pretty sure if you knew me at all you would not have a problem with me. But of course I think you come on here looking for more confrontations.

I didn't know Emil had someone else with him, of course in my post I said if he did it changed the whole situation. Obviously with a lower lvl with him, he would almost have to kill the mobs in the way. I've had a few issues with a few IB members, but every guild will have their misfits and aholes.

I don't really like dragging this persons name through the mud any more, I felt we did that enough after the whole manastone situation. But that's one big example. But AN IB MEMBER came down to our EE camp and started telling us pretty much after the server reset IB was taking the camp from us. We had at least 5 people standing at our camp and that IB member not only sat in agro range of our mob and got hit but started messing with us. Then shouted to the whole zone to come to EE because it was a free for all. When the server came back up, I engaged OUR mob first and killed it, got the xp and everything. I even got CONGRATS from IB members. Then immediately a GM ruled in the favor or the IB member. That GM never talked to me personally before the ruling or asked any questions to me. From an outsiders point of view, that's simple bias. That player was going on the I was there first rule, I get it, stake your claim, which the GM ruled they were in the zone first. (Of course I was told specifically that you can't just claim something like that as we did with FG's a few times and then lost them) After arguing for a while and I had to call my guild to come back outside OUR camp or we would get banned... We finally got our camp back obviously.

NOW that you have 1 example, I will tell you that I get a few tells at a week about some IB member taking mobs or ksing my guildies (of course this isn't just IB members, it happens with all guilds, hell even our own). I understand the powerful will always walk all over the weak, it's part of this world we live in. Even our Co-Leader Tygerwoody had a situation where someone from IB tried to push him out of his camp because he was power lvling someone, this happens a lot if you are surprised by this.

I honestly have no problem with IB, you guys are the best raid guild on the server, I have had a lot of civil and good conversations with the leadership and hope that it continues. But if you want to treat me like this I'm not going to be very nice any more. Fanatics create the rebellious and you my friend are making more enemies by the way you treat people. Now I'm going to try and stop responding not because you think I failed or lost, but because it's simply not worth it.

Dude you seem to be a reasonable enough person, and honestly besides your trio of halfassed flames on IB the other day I don't have any issue with you.

..but I do have to say that it seems like you're again here laying baseless claims of wrongdoing at our feet..

I don't know about the situation you're talking about, but if a member of IB was really in the wrong, why didn't you take screenshots? If an IB member breaks any of the server rules or acts unethically and the GMs do nothing, the chances are that we will depending on if you have evidence or not.

I just don't understand how so many IB members could be doing so much wrong on the server and yet not one person has a single screenshot.. That just doesn't add up.

[yaaaflow]

Originally Posted by Pikle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't really like dragging this persons name through the mud any more, I felt we did that enough after the whole manastone situation. But that's one big example. But AN IB MEMBER came down to our EE camp and started telling us pretty much after the server reset IB was taking the camp from us. We had at least 5 people standing at our camp and that IB member not only sat in agro range of our mob and got hit but started messing with us. Then shouted to the whole zone to come to EE because it was a free for all. When the server came back up, I engaged OUR mob first and killed it, got the xp and everything. I even got CONGRATS from IB members. Then immediately a GM ruled in the favor or the IB member. That GM never talked to me personally before the ruling or asked any questions to me. From an outsiders point of view, that's simple bias. That player was going on the I was there first rule, I get it, stake your claim, which the GM ruled they were in the zone first. (Of course I was told specifically that you can't just claim something like that as we did with FG's a few times and then lost them) After arguing for a while and I had to call my guild to come back outside OUR camp or we would get banned... We finally got our camp back obviously.

You brought guild into all of ^^^ when it had nothing to do with it. I personally saw the server was being taken down for a patch, and my experiences with patchs on live servers said that if the server comes down for a patch all camps are up for grabs. I decided to take a gamble and see if I could end up with the EE camp. At no point did I say anything about taking it for IB or on behalf or IB or whatever you are saying there, or any shit like I would have it for sure - I was just under the impression there would be a race for the camp (like classic). And since Finawin had called me some combination of "newbie afk-levelling retard" like an hour earlier, I decided to troll him back, too.

As it turned out the gm initially thought I had the best claim on the camp and I was happy to roll with that. He eventually ruled otherwise, and I left with no fuss as well.

[Pikle]

Haha well let me clear it up, I posted explanations of one example, everyone knows what happened there. I don't feel I need to post them all. And I don't take screen shots to prove people wrong or get people in trouble, I feel most that happens is part of the game. You brought it up, and I didn't half ass flame you guys, if I wanted to flame you I would, I was in a playful and joking mood and I'm sorry that it got your panties in a bunch. The people that I know and like in each guild know that I like them and their guild, I think we got off on the wrong foot.

Now before you go on about false claims, this situation happened, I know who it was and I'm actually friends with them. They were trying to power lvl and most of us understand that, Tygerwoody and him actually became friends, but that doesn't mean that trying to bully people around is justified.

If you want me to start bringing up every little situation to you in game I can easily do that, I can keep logs and screens of every little thing that happens. But that's not my style, the little things aren't a big deal to me. I didn't flame someone who trained our guild a few times in solb while we were doing some rezzes before FG's (this person is not in IB). That person eventually took the FG's from us and I know for sure had they not trained the zoned 3 or 4 times in 15 mins we would of easily beat them to FG's. Now I don't know if they did this on purpose or not and at this point it doesn't matter.

And I'm pretty sure you guys get flamed all the time! haha, I see it in /ooc all the time, as do finawin and GC [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Honestly it's usually the same people that are bullies week in and week out, if they aren't breaking any rules there is anything I can do other than try and calm whoever got wronged down and then hopefully talk to them in a respectful manner about fixing the situation. I don't bring anything up to you because why would I do that?

I have this feeling you think I just make up things? I don't know why you would think that, I've been playing on this server for several months now and if you seriously believe that people haven't wronged me or my friends then you are just crazy. Even our own guild members have wronged each other which I have to take care of, but I can't mediate for the whole damn server, although sometimes I feel like some of us try.
Just let me know what's wrong with what I said this time, and you really don't have to quote everything, haha, I know what I said and so do you [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

IB RULES? is that how I show love? Can't take a few shots at the top guild without you getting mad?

[Pikle]

haha Magicflow, I was attempting to not use your name. AND when the GM ruled if you remember correctly one of your guild mates said IB WINS! haha, I didn't start it Flow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
And please don't act all high and mighty, you acted pretty disrespectable when you got to our camp and most of the time there, I will agree you left without making much of an arguement but I'm sure you probably understand it was really our camp, engaging first usually got you the camp in classic, even after server down times.

Again I swear you guys take this all so personally. It's a game, we play a game to have fun. I have a lot of fun playing this game and being part of this community. And there will always be people like you magicflow, but I can't honestly believe that was your first situation dealing with a server down where you tried to grab a camp.

SO because finawin called you something you tried to wrong my guilds camp? 1 on 1 doesn't mean guild on guild, I only used IB instead of your name because I was honestly trying to stop flaming you, but it seems I can't stop [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] It just naturally flows from my fingertips.

Sorry for double post, usually not my bag baby.

[Finawin]

I have screenshots of that entire debacle up to and including Drommund's ineptitude. (I'd really enjoy knowing who this noob's player character is after this whole thing.)

I'm not home, so I can post them if I feel like cropping them down to the chat boxes and subsequently uploading them when I do get home. I probably won't, though, because there were several witnesses there even outside of both our guilds. It's really unnecessary to "prove" anything when it's common knowledge. Ammutt, Muerte, 5 or so of GC, and you all know what happened that day. Lying about it to seem innocent doesn't work.

You tried to steal a camp over a 5 minute reset and got wtfpwnt when you tried. You are nothing but a camp stealing bitch.

[karsten]

I'm here to be a part of this important thread!

[Zithax]

EMIL IS A JERK OMFG