Mages were HORRIBLE at launch

[Palemoon]

Originally Posted by Dolalin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ah I got a good one. Originally mage pets were research only it seems?



https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt....s/2XI-lRaLJqQJ

We need this to happen on green. Can you imagine the world crush it would be to those forming mage power groups?

[Niedar]

Seeing lots of conspiracy theories and rumors from nerds on message boards in 1999 but little facts.

[skorge]

Originally Posted by mattydef [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sounds like OP is making a mage on green and wants less competition.

Lol nope. It's just that I played a mage as my very first character on launch day of Everquest up until level 24. He was no longer viable at this level as I could not research any pets. It wasn't even the fact that pets sucked back then (didn't have abilities) it was that I could no longer upgrade my pet, and as someone said above on 05/99 pets simply didn't just exist at that point at higher levels and nobody knew when they were going to be added. I quit my mage probably in June of 99 and rerolled to a druid, then shaman.

Playing the mage on launch up until June was super frustrating. They were gimped hard, like rogues. Necros just completely blew them out of the water in power, until Brad made mages viable again.

What's funny is I read the thread about someone talking about research not working for mage and he spent a lot of time on it and knew more than the in-game guides/gms...that's actually legit. I did the same and I could even be the other person he is talking about when he mentions the gm/guide talked to someone else, lol. I spent DAYS trying to find my 24th+ pet. My friend, highest level mage on server, in Fires of Heaven, was level 28 using the level 20 pet in Cazic Thule. No joke...that's how bad it was. Keep in mind, during this time, EVERYONE grouped...so literally no mages on the server were soloing back then...it was just too hard. Even at lower levels trying to solo with a mage = death.

After spending all that time and no answer in sight I made a druid, lol...then made my main a shaman after getting the druid up to the 20s. If mages were what they became I would have stuck to the mage to level 50.

[Gustoo]

Nice good OG stories.

[skorge]

Originally Posted by Gustoo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nice good OG stories.

Yep, lol...i remember those first couple months like it was yesterday...they were so epic. I even remember most of my good's friends name, including a halfling druid named Ceffin on Veeshan whom they did a big funeral service for in lavastorm (he died IRL and the gms held a funeral service for him and sent his body off into lava...literally brought a tear to my eye when i saw his name written down on a sheet of paper i had on my desk, a few months later - i would write names down to keep up with them better).

[Dolalin]

I dumped the EQ_spell_research list the other day and I've updated my export-html.sh to include links and format the message a bit better.

I found a message referring to GZ commenting that mage research was broken and that some stuff wasn't in the game. Includes explicit references to failed combines.

Tragically the list the message is from, EQMagicians, isn't archived by Yahoo. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] But I do get snippets.

https://groups.yahoo.com/api/v1/grou...ch/messages/72

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Message ID: 72
Date: Mon May 10 20:36:57 BST 1999
Author: Magis
Subject: Exatcly how to do this.


This IS From the magicians ONEList And from As Far as I know The
Highest level Magician of all ..


From: "Seth Oliver" <SOliver@...>

LVL 24 RESEARCH:
Here is the low down on what has been happening with me. Also, thank
you
Vicki. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
I found Gloves of Rallos Zek,
Flame of Vox ( qty 2 )
Words of Coersion ( qty 2 )
Words of Transendence (qty 2)

1- My friend Arkaine (lvl 35 magician on fennin with me) successfully
made
a level 20 earth elemental. So the methodology is there. NO NEED FOR
PEN
AND PARCHMENT. Just the three components listed in the book then
combine.

2- Everfont is broke. Level 20 water ele is broke. Level 24 Earth ele
is
broke. How do i know? Well i no longer have Gloves of Rallos Zek and
now i
am down to 1 Words of Coersion. Also I am down to 1 words of
transendence
becuase i tried to create level 24 earth ele and everfont only to get
the
message that these hard earned and extremely rare items do not go
together
to form jack squak.

3- Arkaine was successful in creating level 20 earth, so the method on
how
to do it is real simple. Put in the three components, click combine.
However it would not allow Arkaine to create level 20 water nor
everfont,
and it would not allow me to create everfont nor Level 24 earth. I
talked
to the man who updates and maintains EQLizer which is at Gameznet.com
who is
in my guild and he talked to GZ less then a week ago. GZ told him that
all
research was implemented EXCEPT magician research. I believe they
forgot to
implement ALL our research, just some of it. If any of have luck, let
me
know. Once again, YOU DO NOT NEED PEN AND PARCHMENT

Peace Fellow Magi,
Jago Mindbender 34 Fennin



Most Of The Magicians Spells research Are broke ( Still mostly a beta
Character) Some work some don't .... As For the Rest I don't know Never
bothered to research them on the Net or get information about them
anyone high enough level to research in the other classes never bothered
to post anything general that I have Found ..

Hope this helps..
--

Jamie Macdonald

A.K.A
Magis DarkStone
Mercenary Mage

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"I've been a Wizard, Magician, Sorcerer, And Charlatan."

"But I've always been a Loner by Nature
and A Lurker by Want"

"Knowledge Is Power, Learn how to use It"

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Anyone interested can use the export-html.sh script to translate these jsons to html files. You'll need a bash shell with the jq utility installed.

https://github.com/dbsanfte/eq-archi.../mailing-lists

[AgentEpilot]

Didnt mage pets also have a chance on summon to attack the mage? I would love to see some pet rage going on.

[DMN]

Originally Posted by skorge [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yep, lol...i remember those first couple months like it was yesterday...they were so epic. I even remember most of my good's friends name, including a halfling druid named Ceffin on Veeshan whom they did a big funeral service for in lavastorm (he died IRL and the gms held a funeral service for him and sent his body off into lava...literally brought a tear to my eye when i saw his name written down on a sheet of paper i had on my desk, a few months later - i would write names down to keep up with them better).

You probably wrote them down because the friends list didn't exist for awhile.

[DMN]

Originally Posted by AgentEpilot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Didnt mage pets also have a chance on summon to attack the mage? I would love to see some pet rage going on.

Baldur's gate exit left 2000 feet.

[Quinas]

Twenty year old internet forum posts feeling like Sumerian tablets.