It is past time we were allowed shortie hybrids

[Puluin]

I do believe everyone's argument over the nexus ruining porting is a dumb argument. And hypocritical.

Nexus only takes you between the main spires nexus - gfay - nk - Tox - DL. You still had to get a wiz or dru port or run your happy little pixel to FP or Qeynos or literally any zone on the mainland outside of NK.

I mean who the hell wants to run from NK to FP ??

Druids and wizards were still heavily used for ports during Luclin.

Also who the hell wants to take two boat rides at 3am when you finally get a hole group while auctioning in gfay?

I can 100% say withour a doubt, none of you want to make that hour or two long run when no porter can be found.

Dial a port as a guild is not classic. There was no taxi guild on live and no global chat. Which means if you weren't lucky to find a porter in the zone you're in, you start scouring your friends list.

Good luck at 2-4am....

Waiting 15min for a port to nexus and then 15min more to get to one of the 4 spires was merely a consolation prize for those not waiting to boat.

[Deathrydar]

Originally Posted by Puluin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I do believe everyone's argument over the nexus ruining porting is a dumb argument. And hypocritical.

Nexus only takes you between the main spires nexus - gfay - nk - Tox - DL. You still had to get a wiz or dru port or run your happy little pixel to FP or Qeynos or literally any zone on the mainland outside of NK.

I mean who the hell wants to run from NK to FP ??

Druids and wizards were still heavily used for ports during Luclin.

Also who the hell wants to take two boat rides at 3am when you finally get a hole group while auctioning in gfay?

I can 100% say withour a doubt, none of you want to make that hour or two long run when no porter can be found.

Dial a port as a guild is not classic. There was no taxi guild on live and no global chat. Which means if you weren't lucky to find a porter in the zone you're in, you start scouring your friends list.

Good luck at 2-4am....

Waiting 15min for a port to nexus and then 15min more to get to one of the 4 spires was merely a consolation prize for those not waiting to boat.

Wrong! I want the long run. Thanks and have fun playing non-classic, classic Everquest!

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Next expansion for P1999 is Legacy of Ykesha imho.

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Originally Posted by elwing [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Didn't like that expac.... But well pirates! Yaar !

You and everyone else. Or if they did like it, they liked it for all the non-content stuff: LoY gave us armor dyes, shared bank slot, Frogloks, something other than a horse to ride on, etc.

But SOE screwed up the content part. They basically made what should have been the sequel to Velious, but made it as the sequel to PoP. Almost every zone in LoY was for P99/classic levels (ie. 60 and under).

Now true there was MUDflation, so a level 60 in LoY had much better gear than we have, and true the final zone in the expansion was for higher level characters, and would need to be tuned down a little (or converted into more of a raid zone or something) here ...

... but really LoY was way, way closer to classic Everquest than either of the expansions before it. It was set on Norath, filled with classic mobs like ogres and trolls, had mostly classic level ranges, etc. Basically it was just "more old school zones, but pirate themed!"

That was exactly what a bunch of 100-AA point-having level 65s from PoP didn't want ... which is why the expansion isn't remembered fondly by most players ... and it's exactly why I'd love to see some version of it here.

We could all suffer through skinny pirate troll models (maybe pirate trolls have poor nutrition?) if it meant getting five official (well, semi-official, but customized to P99) classic-ish zones to level in ... right?

[Daldaen]

Nexus Spires are just another flavor of boats. Limited entry and exit points, long wait times while you sit still. Druids and Wizards vastly superior.

Luclin launch for Blue would be great though. Lots of good content in that expansion, plus a lot of quality of life additions. You’d actually earn your pet window for example.

[Deathrydar]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nexus Spires are just another flavor of boats. Limited entry and exit points, long wait times while you sit still. Druids and Wizards vastly superior.

Luclin launch for Blue would be great though. Lots of good content in that expansion, plus a lot of quality of life additions. You’d actually earn your pet window for example.

I really can't believe the BS I am seeing. That is a complete disregard for the actual vision for this project and a complete spit in the face to it as well.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Deathrydar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I really can't believe the BS I am seeing. That is a complete disregard for the actual vision for this project and a complete spit in the face to it as well.

Just FYI, you're replying to one of the Project's most significant classic research contributors. I don't know his exact bug-filing stats, but Dald is almost certainly in the top ten list of players on this server most responsible for helping to realize "the actual vision for this project".

... even so, he's allowed to have a different opinion on the spires. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Deathrydar]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just FYI, you're replying to one of the Project's most significant classic research contributors. I don't know his exact bug-filing stats, but Dald is almost certainly in the top ten list of players on this server most responsible for realizing "the actual vision for this project".

... even so, he's allowed to have a different opinion on the spires. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're right!

And I apologize to him and anyone else offended by my post. I take things a bit too seriously sometimes.

I just get upset when I see something that was worked so hard for (not by me) and then you see it being destroyed the same......exact......way it was destroyed 18 years ago. I have to keep faith in the devs that they would never soil this project like that!

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Deathrydar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're right!

And I apologize to him and anyone else offended by mypost. Seriously, I'm sorry and I take things a bit too seriously.

Heh, well this is a place for passionate nerds [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] I certainly would put myself in that category, and I imagine Dald would do.

And if you want to hassle him ... hassle him for going and playing on live for awhile ... ew ... [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Fammaden]

Originally Posted by Deathrydar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I really can't believe the BS I am seeing. That is a complete disregard for the actual vision for this project and a complete spit in the face to it as well.

It doesn't really matter man, the staff are on record that Luclin is never coming. The entire project stops at Velious, that's always been true.

But for blue any sort of custom content is potentially on the table. Which could mean some LoY themed zones, some QoL stuff from later expansions, who knows. Probably not coming any time soon but its likely for a future of blue if the whole project keeps going. But a full Luclin, not remotely likely.

I'm ok with that since now there will be green for people to have the unadulterated experience. It would be ideal to have a permanent version of green for characters to retire from and then a recycling green, but the logistics of opening another server are more than we can reasonably expect. Plus we have three plus years of the first green to get through before its a concern anyway.

[Daldaen]

My point is don’t ask for shit that happened out of era unless you want to accept all of it.

You want Cycle Target Hotkeys, accept Luclin, PoP, LoY, LDoN and GoD.

You want pet window and hybrid shorties, accept Luclin.

People picking and choosing stuff is non-sense on classic servers. There’s thousands that play here, everyone’s picks will be different and you’re never going to please everyone so the best and most logical option is to go whole hog. Accept everything in an era or accept none of it.

For the record I think Luclin and PoP stick very well into the classic game spirit though. They bring balance more in line across all classes, the PoP storyline is pretty good, it provides value of raiding and grouping across several eras of content, and when the game was becoming so large that traveling became unwieldy, PoKnowledge helps the casual player manage the new size of the game while still keeping value in Druid and Wizard ports, but not making them necessary to join groups across the continent from your current location. I’d even add LoY and LDoN to this as well. GoD is really where I think the deviation from classic begins, though it was one of the best raid expansions once it got a tuning pass IMO.