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Old 08-20-2019, 05:01 PM
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You're replacing one addiction with another.

Everquest isn't the answer you are looking for.

Go to church. Study history. Become the man you are destined to be.

Your ancestors survived for hundreds of thousands of years in much harsher conditions than you are in now. You objectively have an easier life than ANY of your forefathers.

Man the fuck up dude. Seriously.
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Old 08-20-2019, 05:50 PM
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Old 08-21-2019, 02:22 AM
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You're replacing one addiction with another.

Everquest isn't the answer you are looking for.

Go to church. Study history. Become the man you are destined to be.

Your ancestors survived for hundreds of thousands of years in much harsher conditions than you are in now. You objectively have an easier life than ANY of your forefathers.

Man the fuck up dude. Seriously.
Hunter gatherers actually worked substantially less hours than subsistence farmers, who in turn worked less hours than modern workers once accounting for reduced work in the winter.

Of course subsistence farming is a very hard grind for the months where there is a lot of work dawn til dusk. And is less likely to provide as good a diet as hunting/gathering (although a more reliable one thanks to silos and crops that can be kept in edible condition for long periods of time).

Not saying either lifestyle was easier than modern life (especially considering the miraculous, cheap, effective healthcare available to 1st world countries). Just there are a lot of hours of monotonous work 13 months a year with little respite in modern life. I think the desire 'to escape' harkens back to the natural human lifestyle; nomadic hunter gatherers.
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Old 08-21-2019, 02:49 AM
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You're replacing one addiction with another.

Everquest isn't the answer you are looking for.

Go to church. Study history. Become the man you are destined to be.

Your ancestors survived for hundreds of thousands of years in much harsher conditions than you are in now. You objectively have an easier life than ANY of your forefathers.

Man the fuck up dude. Seriously.
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Old 08-21-2019, 06:03 AM
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You're replacing one addiction with another.

Everquest isn't the answer you are looking for.

Go to church. Study history. Become the man you are destined to be.

Your ancestors survived for hundreds of thousands of years in much harsher conditions than you are in now. You objectively have an easier life than ANY of your forefathers.

Man the fuck up dude. Seriously.
You can't compare the stresses of modern life to historical life just because they were living in "harsher conditions." Yes, physically life in the past was more demanding, but I'd argue that emotional and psychological strain of modern life is much more intense. If life is so much easier now than in the past, then why do we see this rise in depression, addiction, etc. of the past few decades?

I also think advice like "man up" is a really shitty thing to say to someone who is struggling at any point in their life. I don't know about the rest of you, but that kind of jock bullshit was one thing I could escape from in EQ. Being able to talk about your emotions or stresses doesn't make you less of man, it makes you more of one. It takes a lot more bravery and strength to talk about problems than it does to "man up" and pretend they don't exist.
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Old 08-21-2019, 09:09 AM
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Man the fuck up dude. Seriously.
Dealing with your problems is "manning up".

Trying to bully people is what children do.
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Old 08-21-2019, 11:43 AM
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You're replacing one addiction with another.

Everquest isn't the answer you are looking for.
quest
late Middle English: from Old French queste (noun), quester (verb), based on Latin quaerere 'ask, seek'. See also inquest.

c. 1300, "an inquest;" early 14c., "a search for something" (especially of judicial inquiries or hounds seeking game), from Old French queste "search, quest, chase, hunt, pursuit; inquest, inquiry" (12c., Modern French quête), properly "the act of seeking," and directly from Medieval Latin questa "search, inquiry," alteration of Latin quaesitus (fem. quaesita) "sought-out, select," past participle of quaerere "seek, gain, ask" (see query (n.)). Romance sense of "adventure undertaken by a knight"(especially the search for the Grail) is attested from late 14c. Johnson's dictionary has questmonger "Starter of lawsuits or prosecutions."

(The last part isn't directly related, but interesting that ruleslawyers are included.)

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Your ancestors survived for hundreds of thousands of years in much harsher conditions than you are in now. You objectively have an easier life than ANY of your forefathers.

Man the fuck up dude. Seriously.
Our ancestors also maintained severe addictions and questionable beliefs, which helped create those conditions. For a good majority of them, addiction was their way of manning the fuck up.

But then, saying "man the fuck up" is lazy advice, a platitude of the 21st century asshole. Not calling you an asshole, but it is an asshole thing to say.

If there is an answer, it isn't church or history or workout routines...it would have to be in the question itself. The quest. In our search for and research of a bug and its fix, a disease and its cure, a quest and its reward, etc. And the [exact words] to convey something not tldr on these forums.
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