Bard or Ranger?

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https://wiki.project1999.com/Magelo_Blue:Aikons

I count 3 auras of battle. Are you implying 30 less worn attack means he does 10-15% less dps? His damage is high because he’s a level 60 monk with 41% worn haste and 15/18 ( 0.833) and 16/19 weapons (0.842).

Ranger vulak sword 15/21 clocks in at 0.714. Baton of Flame 13/17 best ratio 1hb is 0.765. BiS offhand claw of lightning 14/18 is 0.778.

Monk weapon for primary is 8.88% better than ranger BiS. Monk offhand is 8.2% better than ranger BiS.

I really don’t think I’ve got more to add to this conversation unless parses with context are dropped. Show me a monk with one or both of the monk weapons who is consistently beaten by an ultra high end melee ranger both with equal buffs and equal time spent fighting and I’ll concede there is some mythical witchcraft at play that allows for the violation of math and common sense. Otherwise it simply doesn’t compute how a class with higher offense, weapon skills, double attack, duel wield, all on top of weapon ratios >8% better loses out to the class that has some bonus attack. Does the degree of the bonus even result in higher total attack factoring in the attack lost from lower weapon and offense caps.

I am very strongly suspicious that the “3/4” of parses you’ve reviewed where you claim ranger superiority involve monks missing out on a sizable portion of the fight because they were flopped, waiting for a coth, zoning out after pulling for you, or some combination of the above. Or monks undergeared without the perfect stack of buffs.

/shrug

It doesn’t matter. This side derail conversation only exists because a few threads back there was assertion that rangers generally put out more damage than monks at the high end. I never saw it at the low end, in groups at the high end (involving spreads of casual vs. casual or high end raider vs raider), or in raids unless the monks were busy pulling or the rare pretty trueshot burn.

For this part of the conversation I’m done, friend, unless some credible parses are put up. If you have any I would legitimately love to see them. Please provide the relevant details including how long each player was engaged on target (easy with gamparse) so we can make sure the monk didn’t spend the first 30+ seconds of the fight not engaged.