Enchanters, how's life at 60?

[Baylan295]

I love playing my Enchanter. It’s my only toon at 60, but he’s been 60 for a year and I still don’t get tired of it. I have lots of options in terms of doing fun stuff, am almost always useful in a group or raid, and can frequently contribute in meaningful ways.

Lots of people say that enchanters are just buff bots on raids, but there is a lot more to it on most raids - you can charm, blur, bind sight, and with the right tools engage and work on FTEing and holding mobs out of camp. People that are buff bottling aren’t getting the most out of their class - and in some raids, enchanters are absolutely critical (looking at you Hate and Fear).

[Crede]

enchanters are extremely boring at 60 in all aspects of the game IMO, except maybe if you want to solo some cool shit and make money. Don’t get me wrong, I loved leveling my enchanter and is my only lvl 60, but just not fun at 60 unless you are really trying to be optimistic like Baylan.

I’d recommend to anyone to start a druid,mage, or enchanter, get rich and then twink out a char that you’ll enjoy more in the end game. For velious raiding, that’s pretty much melee classes, excluding pal/sk, and clerics.

For green? Well I never played classic, but that might be the one exception where cc is so critical to breaking the planes, enchanters should see a lot more action there.

[indiscriminate_hater]

Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

enchanters are extremely boring at 60 in all aspects of the game IMO, except maybe if you want to solo some cool shit and make money. Don’t get me wrong, I loved leveling my enchanter and is my only lvl 60, but just not fun at 60 unless you are really trying to be optimistic like Baylan.

I’d recommend to anyone to start a druid,mage, or enchanter, get rich and then twink out a char that you’ll enjoy more in the end game. For velious raiding, that’s pretty much melee classes, excluding pal/sk, and clerics.

For green? Well I never played classic, but that might be the one exception where cc is so critical to breaking the planes, enchanters should see a lot more action there.

In other words: don't play the one class that's truly capable of controlling game mechanics. Instead play an exciting class, like one where you put on autoattack

[Crede]

Originally Posted by indiscriminate_hater [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In other words: don't play the one class that's truly capable of controlling game mechanics. Instead play an exciting class, like one where you put on autoattack

Right, except they’re buff bots/situational charmers on raids. Not at all melee turn on auto attack. Want to stay active at 60? Roll a monk/bard as I see you already have.

I posted a thread about the most fun class at 60. Rangers actually won by a long shot, with bards coming in second. Enchanter was maybe mentioned once? 90% of what made you love your enchanter isn’t carried into the end game. If you’re cool with that, roll it but velious clearly favors melee classes.

[Baylan295]

Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Right, except they’re buff bots/situational charmers on raids. Not at all melee turn on auto attack. Want to stay active at 60? Roll a monk/bard as I see you already have.

I posted a thread about the most fun class at 60. Rangers actually won by a long shot, with bards coming in second. Enchanter was maybe mentioned once? 90% of what made you love your enchanter isn’t carried into the end game. If you’re cool with that, roll it but velious clearly favors melee classes.

I raid in a top end guild and categorically refute that enchanters have to be buff bots. I am plenty active and play a critical role on raids. Then I get to go and solo damn near anything I want.

[Gimp]

Originally Posted by Baylan295 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I raid in a top end guild and categorically refute that enchanters have to be buff bots. I am plenty active and play a critical role on raids. Then I get to go and solo damn near anything I want.

I haven't played in forever, but chanters are certainly more than buff bots and could be a force in FTE races back in the day. Not sure if they still do those though.

[Mblake81]

The recent TOV changes have made every class included again. The raid isn't min/maxed with the poverty attitude that only those who make that work are needed.

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

90% of what made you love your enchanter isn’t carried into the end game.

90% of players don't spend much time in tov or st or whatever. There's shitloads of solo, duo, group, and raid content where enchanters are enchanters.

[Mblake81]

Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

but just not fun at 60 unless you are really trying to be optimistic like Baylan.

I’d recommend to anyone to start a druid,mage, or enchanter, get rich and then twink out a char that you’ll enjoy more in the end game. For velious raiding, that’s pretty much melee classes, excluding pal/sk, and clerics.

hes not optimistic, that is what is done.

Ah, Min/Max. Knights are useful once again, hell so are druids. You are saying only play a rogue, monk, warrior or cleric for raiding. Guess that epic mage is useless as well and so are their summoned items.

I will take every class in game, come on over to Riot where you won't be min/maxed to death.

P/S: Bards are Bards, they do what they do.

[Crede]

Originally Posted by Mblake81 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

hes not optimistic, that is what is done.

Ah, Min/Max. Knights are useful once again, hell so are druids. You are saying only play a rogue, monk, warrior or cleric for raiding. Guess that epic mage is useless as well and so are their summoned items.

I will take every class in game, come on over to Riot where you won't be min/maxed to death.

P/S: Bards are Bards, they do what they do.

Wrong, I’m no min Maxer. I love my erudite pally. But they simply aren’t needed in raids until later expansions where knights were truly critical. OP is talking about feeling valuable in raids. You can make it work if you love your class, but if you’re more concerned about feeling valuable, those really aren’t the classes to do it.