When people say you are paranoid about the government taking your guns

[loramin]

God what a stupid argument. Yeah, you've got some AK-47s ... that's going to do a whole lot of good if the government shows up on your doorstep with a tank (or a nuke).

Sorry crazy conspiracy people, if the government wants to take over, they can and will, because they have vastly superior weaponry. The 2nd amendment isn't what protects your freedom: it's our democratic system of checks and balances.

The day that fails all the guns you can hoard won't do shit when the corrupt government drops a bomb from a plane on you.

[DMN]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

God what a stupid argument. Yeah, you've got some AK-47s ... that's going to do a whole lot of good if the government shows up on your doorstep with a tank (or a nuke).

Sorry crazy conspiracy people, if the government wants to take over, they can and will, because they have vastly superior weaponry. The 2nd amendment isn't what protects your freedom: it's our democratic system of checks and balances.

The viet cong would like to have a word with you.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by DMN [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The viet cong would like to have a word with you.

You can make the same claim about the Taliban in Afghanistan (lesser technology/weapons vs. a superiorly-equipped force).

They also live in caves. In the absolute most remote regions of the country.

If you want to go live in a cave in Montana, have fun. Maybe your guns will help you a little, but I'm still skeptical.

Meanwhile 99.9% of America will be controlled by the evil regime with tanks.

Again, the 2nd amendment does not protect your freedom: a stable democracy does.

[eadric]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Again, the 2nd amendment does not protect your freedom: a stable democracy does.

Except we do not have a democracy; we have a republic - if we can keep it.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by eadric [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Except we do not have a democracy; we have a republic - if we can keep it.

You're being pedantic (which is to say you're technically correct, but your technical correction didn't add anything to the discussion so everyone would have been better off if you hadn't made it [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]).

But hey, I can be pedantic too! While we are a republic, we're not just any republic ... we're a democratic republic:

Originally Posted by Wikipedia

A democratic republic is a form of government operating on principles adopted from a republic and a democracy. Rather than being a cross between two entirely separate systems, democratic republics may function on principles shared by both republics and democracies.

Originally Posted by Wikipedia (emphasis added)

Theory
Common definitions of the terms democracy and republic often feature overlapping concerns, suggesting that many democracies function as republics, and many republics operate on democratic principles, as shown by these definitions from the Oxford English Dictionary:

Republic: "A state in which supreme power is held by the people and their elected representatives..."[1]
Democracy: "A system of government by the whole population or all the eligible members of a state, typically through elected representatives."[2]
Eugene Volokh of the UCLA School of Law notes that the United States exemplifies the varied nature of a constitutional republic—a country where some decisions (often local) are made by direct democratic processes, while others (often federal) are made by democratically elected representatives.[3]

In other words, democratic republics are democracies (and republics). Ha! Now I'm the one who's technically correct! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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[DinoTriz2]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You can make the same claim about the Taliban in Afghanistan (lesser technology/weapons vs. a superiorly-equipped force).

They also live in caves. In the absolute most remote regions of the country.

If you want to go live in a cave in Montana, have fun. Maybe your guns will help you a little, but I'm still skeptical.

Meanwhile 99.9% of America will be controlled by the evil regime with tanks.

Again, the 2nd amendment does not protect your freedom: a stable democracy does.

You should know that a tank REQUIRES a supporting group of soldiers on the ground or else it's a sitting duck.

People think tanks are all-powerful.

It's considered suicide to take a tank alone out in the battlefield.

I'm sorry, but again, you are wrong.

An armed populace presents a HUGE problem for a modern military, even ours.

If the US government is bombing civilian populations, then the international community will support the citizens and they will be much more motivated to by the fact that there are 300+ million firearms already in our possession.

[FatherSioux]

Originally Posted by DinoTriz2 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If the US government is bombing civilian populations, then the international community will support the citizens and they will be much more motivated to by the fact that there are 300+ million firearms already in our possession.

[Wonkie]

Originally Posted by DinoTriz2 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If the US government is bombing civilian populations, then the international community will support the citizens and they will be much more motivated to by the fact that there are 300+ million firearms already in our possession.

so you're saying france is a better deterrence against tyranny than your shooty bang bang toys?

[DinoTriz2]

Originally Posted by Wonkie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

so you're saying france is a better deterrence against tyranny than your shooty bang bang toys?

Nope, I'm saying the exact opposite of that.

Top notch reading comprehension there, bud.

they will be much more motivated to by the fact that there are 300+ million firearms already in our possession.

[maskedmelon]

@Wonkie: you disabled PMs duder, so i can't respond that way. here's my answer though:

in general, they are. rather than guessing at the point you wanted to make though, I'll let you make it and then respond ^^




also, i just ate 4oz of Gouda, many spinach leafs and 1.8g of sodium. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]