When will the illegal Hate farming stop?

[Hyjalx]

I am not sure why a fix hasn't been made. Epics have been around since Kunark.

So lets be honest here... Every player commenting here that has any clue of what is actually going on knows that new players creating mages have a slim to ZERO chance of ever obtaining their epic as it currently stands.

People have been Idling at the stairs since Hate was released. This is nothing new. If we aren't going to police it, the drop rate needs to be increased to preserve the integrity of the game.

Good luck finding a group of neckbeards with several alts willing to park their toons at the stairs for a 750k item just to give it away. Also, how many new players use fraps? Are we really expecting new players to our server to play detective?

The drop rate on the earth staff needs to be increased similar to what was done to Venril Sathir and the wizard epic to improve the integrity of the game. The staff has done a great job with these issues, and I am sure this will be no different as long as people stay vocal about it.

Increase the drop rate on the staff to drop almost every time like VS, and this crap will stop when the price plummets.

[LazyHydras]

Originally Posted by Hyjalx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am not sure why a fix hasn't been made. Epics have been around since Kunark.

So lets be honest here... Every player commenting here that has any clue of what is actually going on knows that new players creating mages have a slim to ZERO chance of ever obtaining their epic as it currently stands.

People have been Idling at the stairs since Hate was released. This is nothing new. If we aren't going to police it, the drop rate needs to be increased to preserve the integrity of the game.

Good luck finding a group of neckbeards with several alts willing to park their toons at the stairs for a 750k item just to give it away. Also, how many new players use fraps? Are we really expecting new players to our server to play detective?

The drop rate on the earth staff needs to be increased similar to what was done to Venril Sathir and the wizard epic to improve the integrity of the game. The staff has done a great job with these issues, and I am sure this will be no different as long as people stay vocal about it.

Increase the drop rate on the staff to drop almost every time like VS, and this crap will stop when the price plummets.

Truer words of wisdom have never been spoken.

[Lobster1071]

Originally Posted by Hyjalx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am not sure why a fix hasn't been made. Epics have been around since Kunark.

So lets be honest here... Every player commenting here that has any clue of what is actually going on knows that new players creating mages have a slim to ZERO chance of ever obtaining their epic as it currently stands.

People have been Idling at the stairs since Hate was released. This is nothing new. If we aren't going to police it, the drop rate needs to be increased to preserve the integrity of the game.

Good luck finding a group of neckbeards with several alts willing to park their toons at the stairs for a 750k item just to give it away. Also, how many new players use fraps? Are we really expecting new players to our server to play detective?

The drop rate on the earth staff needs to be increased similar to what was done to Venril Sathir and the wizard epic to improve the integrity of the game. The staff has done a great job with these issues, and I am sure this will be no different as long as people stay vocal about it.

Increase the drop rate on the staff to drop almost every time like VS, and this crap will stop when the price plummets.

Thanks for the comment. Increasing the drop rate is a nice suggestion. Someone gave me another one, which I like as well. Simply make the staff non-MQable (along with other min-boss items). All of this Hate farming nonsense will stop immediately.

Otherwise, should we start naming our characters with names like "Security Camera" so we can record these people with proof? Is that really the plan to stop this ridiculousness? Data which should be readily available to the GM's anyway (login times, locations, item aquistion times, etc).

[rezzie]

Originally Posted by Lobster1071 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Someone gave me another one, which I like as well. Simply make the staff non-MQable (along with other min-boss items). All of this Hate farming nonsense will stop immediately.

That will just see the introduction of "WTS Earth Staff loot rights" posts, the same as Stormfeather/Hammered Golden Hoop/Infestation and the other non-MQable items.

Like I said, catch someone in the act of logging in camped in zone and not porting up and that should be all the evidence you need to get them suspended.

[Chapelle]

Originally Posted by rezzie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That will just see the introduction of "WTS Earth Staff loot rights" posts, the same as Stormfeather/Hammered Golden Hoop/Infestation and the other non-MQable items.

Like I said, catch someone in the act of logging in camped in zone and not porting up and that should be all the evidence you need to get them suspended.

The spawns are rare enough with massive windows therefore the opportunity to capture them logging in at fountain is extremely difficult. I also don’t think suspending one group will deter others from doing the same thing.

There needs to be a systematic resolution such as increased drop rate or expanded drop opportunities (male forsaken revs) to resolve the real driver of the camp - the price tag of a staff. If supply is raised, prices will deflate and give more the opportunity to complete the epic. I believe everything has value in this game and helps contribute to the immersive economy and gameplay. However, there’s an unnatural effect at play when you’re preventing end game experiences to a class due to monopolizing in game features and items.

[bthomsen0312]

Originally Posted by Hyjalx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am not sure why a fix hasn't been made. Epics have been around since Kunark.

So lets be honest here... Every player commenting here that has any clue of what is actually going on knows that new players creating mages have a slim to ZERO chance of ever obtaining their epic as it currently stands.

People have been Idling at the stairs since Hate was released. This is nothing new. If we aren't going to police it, the drop rate needs to be increased to preserve the integrity of the game.

Good luck finding a group of neckbeards with several alts willing to park their toons at the stairs for a 750k item just to give it away. Also, how many new players use fraps? Are we really expecting new players to our server to play detective?

The drop rate on the earth staff needs to be increased similar to what was done to Venril Sathir and the wizard epic to improve the integrity of the game. The staff has done a great job with these issues, and I am sure this will be no different as long as people stay vocal about it.

Increase the drop rate on the staff to drop almost every time like VS, and this crap will stop when the price plummets.

I think part of the problem is that the Mage epic is the best epic in the game hands down. Is there a better epic that better enables the character to do content?

[DallyLlama]

Originally Posted by bthomsen0312 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think part of the problem is that the Mage epic is the best epic in the game hands down. Is there a better epic that better enables the character to do content?

Raiding would be intolerable without cleric epic. It's the only one that is needed in the end game.

[Hrothgar]

Originally Posted by bthomsen0312 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think part of the problem is that the Mage epic is the best epic in the game hands down. Is there a better epic that better enables the character to do content?

Indeed, the epic is suuuuper strong, especially to a level 46-55 mage. And/or to a mage with clicky boots and a boom stick... But, there's a bunch of equally important and powerful epics out there, which are FAR, far, far, far easier and cheaper to get.

I think the real issue is: The Earth staff is so rare that there are simply not enough tangible instances of "right place, right time" mages on p99, like there are Monks or Druids or Clerics or Rogues or Shamen; guilds loot the staff and loot council the hell out of it EVEN when players are spending their hard-earned DKP. Having quested the epic 1.0, 1.5 and 2.0 on live with my Mage, I can attest to the supreme lack of epic mages on p99 being disconcerting and 'not classic' - whatever that means.

But, I'm just a filthy casual these days anyway. There's probably some nerd-core spectacle Mages doing amazing things out there with clicky Jabober on 'roids that the server staff is protecting us from by means of making the staff a real MewTwo.