Tunare agreement makes like a tree and leafs

[Molitoth]

Originally Posted by Dillusional [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Paradigm Shift could've done a lot of stuff with this earthquake. I heard they went straight to VP like and did their same old thing.

If PS would have "Did their same old thing." Then they would have gotten yet another CT kill.

PS focused on VP for the first time in a LONG time. You are Dillusional.

[Dillusional]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Didn't AM/AW once try to design a 'rotation' intended to lock all other forces out of growth. It back fired; Aw failed to qualify and some other forces unexpectedly succeeded in qualifying for the rotation so Am/Aw decided the rotation was silly and pulled the carpet out from it.

Am isn't pulling out the carpet from their own agreement again are they?

Was it was designed to lock other forces out of pixels but instead is assisting others getting those pixels and am is once again damage controlling a pixel cannon backfire?

What? This just never happened. There was very little interest in clearing growth even when you could guarantee two good loots by respawning Tunare until she was visibly holding two things. It used to take Rampage/Awakened and Aftermath 10-12 hours before the order of killing stuff was polished.

After they made what Tunare was holding non-visible, interest in killing her dropped close to zero. Awakened decided getting basically nothing 50% of the time after spending hours clearing growth wasn't worth it.

Only recently has interest peaked back up again and the competitive Tunare meta is just establishing itself now.

[ajohnymous]

Originally Posted by rezzie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

• AG makes an RnF to remind everyone who the real bad guys are.

This is not a rants and flames post. It’s not an attack on any guild. I’m not in AG, Core, or PS. It is an accounting of what the Tunare agreement was, how it was dissolved, and why. Most players on this server have no idea how the raid scene works so I will be writing posts like this, regardless of who you personally feel is being “attacked,” in order to provide insight.

[DromalPhrenia]

You got several details wrong, starting with the first sentence, so maybe your insight is less valuable than you think?

[Dillusional]

Originally Posted by Molitoth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If PS would have "Did their same old thing." Then they would have gotten yet another CT kill.

PS focused on VP for the first time in a LONG time. You are Dillusional.

Delusional, maybe. Out of the loop definitely. Last time I talked to someone who was considering leaving PS they basically told me "well, my main already has all the VP gear I need". So assumptions were made. Nevertheless, PS didn't show up for any of the "new content" like kittens boldly did and this thread is goofy because Aftermath was able to casually stroll into PoG the next morning and start clearing uncontested.... until core/Ag showed up later threatening to snipe it lol.

[Dillusional]

Oh man this wasn't rants and flames, whoops. This thread totally has a rants and flames title.

[rezzie]

Originally Posted by ajohnymous [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I will be writing posts like this, regardless of who you personally feel is being “attacked,” in order to provide insight.

Here's some insight: raiding at the top-tier is nowhere near as toxic as the forums, especially RnF, make it out to be. Using the forums to gauge the state of the raid scene is not going to give you an accurate picture.

There's disputes and arguments and it's not always happy families. When there is a bitter dispute then inter-guild communication breaks down for a while. Animosity grows and dissipates.

On the whole guilds tend to play nice together. I'd argue the vast majority of players across those guilds have a fun time winning top-tier content, and pretty much everyone has friends in other guilds.

If it was a toxic cesspit the 300-400 players who actively raid each cycle would not bother.

[indiscriminate_hater]

Originally Posted by ajohnymous [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Clearing the entire zone takes some guilds all day to do, some less, you can probably guess which end of the spectrum Aftermath is on.

huehue

[DromalPhrenia]

Originally Posted by rezzie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

On the whole guilds tend to play nice together. I'd argue the vast majority of players across those guilds have a fun time winning top-tier content, and pretty much everyone has friends in other guilds.

Buddy, I don't even have friends in my OWN guild.

[Baylan295]

Originally Posted by Dillusional [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The agreement was a great deal for paradigm shift and a terrible deal for Aftermath. Why would anyone expect anything different than Aftermath to backing out and then Paradigm Shift being salty about it?

Paradigm Shift could've done a lot of stuff with this earthquake. I heard they went straight to VP like and did their same old thing. Get out there and get some guys. But please refrain from accusations and abuse in ooc, blatant disregard for the rules and ridiculous trains/agroe when your players are in places they shouldn't be.

Last I checked, PS killed two ToV dragons during the quake, including the unkillable Gozzrem. COTHing into a many-hours-long shitshow in ToV late in PS’s primetime isn’t a smart call.

And accusations and abuse in OOC? I’m the one that got told to kill myself on Friday night. Pretty sure there was a RnF about that.