Good bye

[loramin]

It's honestly quite sad to see someone try so hard to make the server better, and get prevented from doing so. Best of luck to you.

[Twochain]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's honestly quite sad to see someone try so hard to make the server better, and get prevented from doing so. Best of luck to you.

It's a pretty bad solution to a pretty complex problem. So he got Veto'd. It's especially bad considering Tempest had literally just died. That week. Tempest didn't die because AM was breaking the rules. Tempest died because they had extremely toxic leadership, as cited by EVERY SINGLE APP WE'VE GOTTEN FROM THEM.

Loramin, there is NOTHING keeping you from raiding Temple of Veeshan. If you wanted to, you would. I feel as though you believe the top guides on this server do not have the best interest of this project at heart. And that is ridiculous. I do enjoy your wikiguides though.


To anyone else bashing GM's in this thread, you're an idiot. Not because you might get banned, because you might, but you're bashing volunteers for a free game. It's not exactly the easiest thing in the world to find someone who not only can be trusted, but is active overall. Although.... if we're going to be real for a second, it's kind of a dick move to post a bunch of privileged admin conversations because you were mad you got veto'd. I don't believe ToV to be the absolute shit show Sirken/Yourself portray it to be. It can be crazy, but it's not like every single pull has guilds going at each others throats. Regardless…

Thank you for your service Braknar, every encounter I've had with you was fair at minimum.

[Baylan295]

Originally Posted by Twochain [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't believe ToV to be the absolute shit show Sirken/Yourself portray it to be. It can be crazy, but it's not like every single pull has guilds going at each others throats. Regardless…

Thank you for your service Braknar, every encounter I've had with you was fair at minimum.

LOL, AM’s own leadership called last night the Wild Wild West.

Detoxx’s own response to my statement that this box is worse now than a year ago was “yeah, but it’s all we’ve got.”

[Detoxx]

Originally Posted by Baylan295 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

LOL, AM’s own leadership called last night the Wild Wild West.

Detoxx’s own response to my statement that this box is worse now than a year ago was “yeah, but it’s all we’ve got.”

[Fri Apr 05 22:46:39 2019] Baylan tells you, 'and here's the thing about those concessions'
[Fri Apr 05 22:46:41 2019] Baylan tells you, 'why should we care'
[Fri Apr 05 22:46:44 2019] Baylan tells you, 'we don't come here every week'
[Fri Apr 05 22:47:02 2019] You told Baylan, 'welp now u got 2 tried without us contesting. that the point'
[Fri Apr 05 22:48:02 2019] Baylan tells you, 'that doesn't mean anything. in a multi-guild world a concession is merely punitive, it doesn't remedy the wrong'
[Fri Apr 05 22:48:32 2019] Baylan tells you, 'but w/e man, I don't know you. if you want to know who I am, ask monrezz, or any of the guys in dmx's channel, I have hung out there for a few months now, I'm a pretty reasonable dude that's on tilt tonight'
[Fri Apr 05 22:48:40 2019] You told Baylan, 'its all we got atm, weve tried to think of another way to handle it but there isnt one'
[Fri Apr 05 22:49:16 2019] Baylan tells you, 'yeah, but this place is undeniably worse than it was a year ago'
[Fri Apr 05 22:49:20 2019] Baylan tells you, 'that's our fault'
[Fri Apr 05 22:49:46 2019] You told Baylan, 'dunno bout that, its getting there but its been nice for the past few months without GMs'
[Fri Apr 05 22:50:13 2019] Baylan tells you, 'that's your perception. I'd disagree'

Uh what? Dont put words in my mouth and have those words be complete lies.

[Baylan295]

Originally Posted by Detoxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Fri Apr 05 22:48:40 2019] You told Baylan, 'its all we got atm, weve tried to think of another way to handle it but there isnt one'
[Fri Apr 05 22:49:16 2019] Baylan tells you, 'yeah, but this place is undeniably worse than it was a year ago'
[Fri Apr 05 22:49:20 2019] Baylan tells you, 'that's our fault'
[Fri Apr 05 22:49:46 2019] You told Baylan, 'dunno bout that, its getting there but its been nice for the past few months without GMs'
[Fri Apr 05 22:50:13 2019] Baylan tells you, 'that's your perception. I'd disagree'

Uh what? Dont put words in my mouth and have those words be complete lies.

Sorry - mixed up the order of operations on two tells that were 36 seconds apart.

[maskedmelon]

Sorry to see you go Braknar and wish you the very best. Thoroughly enjoyed your Halloween event a few years back. Take care!

[Baylan295]

Originally Posted by Detoxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Fri Apr 05 22:46:39 2019] Baylan tells you, 'and here's the thing about those concessions'
[Fri Apr 05 22:46:41 2019] Baylan tells you, 'why should we care'
[Fri Apr 05 22:46:44 2019] Baylan tells you, 'we don't come here every week'
[Fri Apr 05 22:47:02 2019] You told Baylan, 'welp now u got 2 tried without us contesting. that the point'
[Fri Apr 05 22:48:02 2019] Baylan tells you, 'that doesn't mean anything. in a multi-guild world a concession is merely punitive, it doesn't remedy the wrong'
[Fri Apr 05 22:48:32 2019] Baylan tells you, 'but w/e man, I don't know you. if you want to know who I am, ask monrezz, or any of the guys in dmx's channel, I have hung out there for a few months now, I'm a pretty reasonable dude that's on tilt tonight'
[Fri Apr 05 22:48:40 2019] You told Baylan, 'its all we got atm, weve tried to think of another way to handle it but there isnt one'
[Fri Apr 05 22:49:16 2019] Baylan tells you, 'yeah, but this place is undeniably worse than it was a year ago'
[Fri Apr 05 22:49:20 2019] Baylan tells you, 'that's our fault'
[Fri Apr 05 22:49:46 2019] You told Baylan, 'dunno bout that, its getting there but its been nice for the past few months without GMs'
[Fri Apr 05 22:50:13 2019] Baylan tells you, 'that's your perception. I'd disagree'

Uh what? Dont put words in my mouth and have those words be complete lies.

There's something I want to follow up on. It's this:

No one I know thinks the server you've pushed for and wanted over the past year is worth anything. We're all quitting. Grats bro, you won. You get to free farm ToV after pushing out everyone. I hope that's the goal, to free-farm Vulak for 48 of the next 52 weeks.

[Loke]

Originally Posted by Baylan295 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There's something I want to follow up on. It's this:

No one I know thinks the server you've pushed for and wanted over the past year is worth anything. We're all quitting. Grats bro, you won. You get to free farm ToV after pushing out everyone. I hope that's the goal, to free-farm Vulak for 48 of the next 52 weeks.

Pro tip: no one cares that this server doesn't fulfill your every desire of what classic eq should be. You're not the first to rage quit because this implementation of classic EQ doesn't conform to the way you envision it should be (see Chest and BDA), and I'm sure you won't be the last. There are plenty of us who think it is just fine the way it is, and is actually better when the GMs take a more hands off approach (see no-CSR VP, which many of us loved).

Some of us were here when IB dominated the server and no one could compete... Until DA did. Some of us were here when TMO dominated the server and no one could compete... Until FE did. Plenty of us will still be here while AM dominates the server and no one can compete... Until someone does. Clearly that won't be PS. Maybe go try instanced EQ with Chest. P99 will carry on without you.

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by Loke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pro tip: no one cares that this server doesn't fulfill your every desire of what classic eq should be. You're not the first to rage quit because this implementation of classic EQ doesn't conform to the way you envision it should be (see Chest and BDA), and I'm sure you won't be the last. There are plenty of us who think it is just fine the way it is, and is actually better when the GMs take a more hands off approach (see no-CSR VP, which many of us loved).

Some of us were here when IB dominated the server and no one could compete... Until DA did. Some of us were here when TMO dominated the server and no one could compete... Until FE did. Plenty of us will still be here while AM dominates the server and no one can compete... Until someone does. Clearly that won't be PS. Maybe go try instanced EQ with Chest. P99 will carry on without you.

Twelve isn't many. The nuthugger enablers were there just because it was easier to get the rot loot without being trained constantly.

[Baylan295]

Originally Posted by Loke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pro tip: no one cares that this server doesn't fulfill your every desire of what classic eq should be. You're not the first to rage quit because this implementation of classic EQ doesn't conform to the way you envision it should be (see Chest and BDA), and I'm sure you won't be the last. There are plenty of us who think it is just fine the way it is, and is actually better when the GMs take a more hands off approach (see no-CSR VP, which many of us loved).

Some of us were here when IB dominated the server and no one could compete... Until DA did. Some of us were here when TMO dominated the server and no one could compete... Until FE did. Plenty of us will still be here while AM dominates the server and no one can compete... Until someone does. Clearly that won't be PS. Maybe go try instanced EQ with Chest. P99 will carry on without you.

Yeah, but lets at least get rid of rid of the self-righteous "the server is better" shit. The server is better because you're winning more. That's all you and your army cares about. Be honest, be frank. Detoxx can't let a fucking Tunare go, so now we're FTE racing for a mob that begs for a rotation.

It's been fun bros, but its too important to get the 143rd True Mithril BP than be reasonable.