5 second roll for A Shady Goblin is absolute poppycock

[Erati]

Originally Posted by Heebs13 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

At least you get a roll. Ring 10 will be a poopsock clickfest until the server shuts down.

Well thats how these Roll-Quests also started, just takes a will and a way, spam the shit out of the clickers begging for rolls and maybe one day itll be a thing.

[Shinko]

add a FTE and click faster

[LazyHydras]

I just don't buy the "this is for a BiS item so should be like all the other BiS item quest" line. The direct result of this quest is. . . . the opportunity to wait at Angry Goblin.

Besides, the real lynch pin for BiS item out of this is Drusella, so I am not sure why this is even an argument.

So, why shouldn't this be on par with Scout Roll?

[loramin]

Originally Posted by LazyHydras [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I just don't buy the "this is for a BiS item so should be like all the other BiS item quest" line. The direct result of this quest is. . . . the opportunity to wait at Angry Goblin.

Besides, the real lynch pin for BiS item out of this is Drusella, so I am not sure why this is even an argument.

So, why shouldn't this be on par with Scout Roll?

I'm not sure what specifically you want to be "on par", but that entire thought process was inherently flawed. Here's what I mean.

Nothing about these rolls has anything to do with what "should be". They also have nothing to do with what happens after the roll, or whatever justifications you want to create (legitimately or not) based on what comes after.

The only thing these rolls depend on is what the people involved with them will support. If you can use the fact that Drusella is the real bottleneck to convince everyone at Shady they have to /dance before their roll for it to count, then congratulations you win ... but otherwise it doesn't make a lick of difference whether the next step is Angry, Drusella, or Fippy Darkpaw: the only thing that matters is what everyone at the roll is willing to agree to.

You'll have far more success if you think about rolls and roll rules this way instead of what "should" be.

[LazyHydras]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not sure what specifically you want to be "on par", but that entire thought process was inherently flawed. Here's what I mean.

Nothing about these rolls has anything to do with what "should be". They also have nothing to do with what happens after the roll, or whatever justifications you want to create (legitimately or not) based on what comes after.

The only thing these rolls depend on is what the people involved with them will support. If you can use the fact that Drusella is the real bottleneck to convince everyone at Shady they have to /dance before their roll for it to count, then congratulations you win ... but otherwise it doesn't make a lick of difference whether the next step is Angry, Drusella, or Fippy Darkpaw: the only thing that matters is what everyone at the roll is willing to agree to.

You'll have far more success if you think about rolls and roll rules this way instead of what "should" be.

Maybe your brain is having a malfunction, but another way of looking at someone expressing what things "should be" by way of pointing out the reality behind this quest line is someone using logic to convince others of what makes sense by comparing it to others. Regal Band of Bathezid is on par with items from scout roll, hence should be treated more similarly to scout roll than to the 10th Ring quest.

But, hey, if you are saying that I have to just wait for super neckbeard from AM, Core, and, I guess, Anon, to leave before anything can change, than I guess it is what it is.

[Valakut]

make green99 a VIP server that requires $10 donation status per account per month

no more neck beards arguing on a free server